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 Recordings/Questions of a few pieces.
Author: MJSmith 
Date:   2007-12-16 00:07

I'm looking to purchase a recording of the Concertino Op.26 in E-flat major by Carl Maria von Weber. What label or artist would you recommend?

I am doing the Concertino for the Annual Concerto Competition at my university. I've played his Concerto No. 1 and No. 2, but never the Concertino, so I had to sight read it in my practice the other day--not terribly hard to do on the first read, considering his other two concerti. But there are some stylistic things that I want to do with the Concertino, and I want to hear if these are on any of the recordings as well. The winner of the event, gets to perform their concerto with one of the university major ensembles! Prelims is just piano and instrument--and everyone gets to choose whatever concerto/concertino they want (it has to be a full movement or the full work).

I listened to someone play this piece, and he took it way too fast--and it almost lost its musicality because of it.

Also, there is a spot--Measure 102, going into Measure 103, and the same thing at Measure 110 going into 111. I've heard the 32nd note E (at the end of measure 102/110), and the 16th note F (on the down beat of measure 103/111) 8va--and I have heard the performer do it again at the 110-111 section. I've also heard it where the first time (102-103) the performer performed as written in the International Edition, and the last time (110-111) was 8va. I own the International Edition, and it has nothing 8va there. Basically, I have heard three variations of this...

I personally like playing it as written the first time, and then playing that E and F as 8va on the last round of it, as it kind of helps bring that section to a close.

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California State University, Fresno
B.A., Music Education - (c/o 2008)

Post Edited (2007-12-16 00:10)

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 Re: Recordings/Questions of a few pieces.
Author: Jack Kissinger 
Date:   2007-12-16 05:43

There are a number of good recordings of this work and you will likely get alot of recommendations but one that many regard as the definitive performance (and I'm inclined to agree) is by Jon Manasse on XLNT records. The asking price for the one used copy available at Amazon.com is outrageous. If you look around, though, you may be able to find a reasonably priced copy.

Regarding the high E-F, I think it may have been written that way in the old Don McCathern version for clarinet and band. That's the version I learned it from years ago in high school and, I think, that's the way I learned the piece.

Ken Shaw has written a guide to performing this piece that, I think, resides somewhere here on woodwind.org. You can find it in the "keepers" subsection of the bulletin boards. Worth a read.

Best regards,
jnk

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 Re: Recordings/Questions of a few pieces.
Author: GBK 
Date:   2007-12-16 06:11

I agree with Jack that the Jon Manasse recording of the Weber Concertino (and the 2 concertos) is the definitive version for modern instrument playing. He does everything just right...

For a period instrument performance: Tony Pay.

The Manasse recording is getting very difficult to find, but here are some possible sources:

http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=15580

http://www.tower.com/details/details.cfm?wapi=106546442

http://www.classicalcds.net/commerce/index-view.cfm?Page=product-description&ProductItemID=36

http://www.hbdirect.com/album_detail.php?pid=33016

...GBK



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 Re: Recordings/Questions of a few pieces.
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2007-12-16 14:52

In addition to the Manasse recording, I think these three get it just right, though they're very different from one another:

Sabine Meyer http://www.amazon.com/Weber-Clarinet-Concertos-Concertino-Quintet/dp/B00008QSCT/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1197818125&sr=8-1

Kalman Berkes http://www.emusic.com/album/Kalman-Berkes-WEBER-Clarinet-Quintet-Op-34-Grand-Duo-Concert-MP3-Download/10871325.html

Anthony Gigliotti http://www.haydnhouse.com/HH7.htm

The following site at least claims to have the Manasse recording in stock at an affordable price http://www.encoremusic.com/clarinet/8913590.html

My piece on the Concertino is at http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=20&i=270&t=259

See also http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=21746&t=21711

Ken Shaw

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 Re: Recordings/Questions of a few pieces.
Author: bcl1dso 
Date:   2007-12-16 15:33

I am not sure if it is still available, but there used to be a recording of Karl Leister playing all the Weber Repertoire. It was quite good...i would recommend that if you can find it.

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 Re: Recordings/Questions of a few pieces.
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2007-12-16 22:23

Leister's early recordings were excellent. On his later ones (particularly the ones made in Japan) he was simply going through the motions.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: Recordings/Questions of a few pieces.
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2007-12-17 02:47

The Haydnhouse recordings are "questionable" at best. On each recording is the disclaimer "private transfer for backup only" which says uh yeah, we know we are illegal here......

Has to do with the "P" copyright which didn't occur until 1973, however there are still state copyrights which are/were in effect. That was told to me by a top Intellectual Property Lawyer in NYC.

http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com


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 Re: Recordings/Questions of a few pieces.
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2007-12-17 03:38

btw, I have that Concertino recording by haydnhouse, that's how I knew of the disclaimer.

Very interesting, albeit non-legit source for hard to find recordings......

http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com


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