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 rose etude #13
Author: Avie 
Date:   2007-12-01 15:55

In Rose 32 (Carl Fisher version) etude #13, bar #6 Im having a problem going from C# back to D# and making the two triplets smooth. Is there a prefered way to perform this run? The left finger or the right finger B doesnt work well for me. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Avie



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 Re: rose etude #13
Author: GBK 
Date:   2007-12-01 16:25

Unless your clarinet has a LH Eb key, you must slide your right pinky from the D#5 to the B4.

Then play the C#5 with the left pinky and the D#5 with the right pinky ...GBK



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 Re: rose etude #13
Author: Mark G Simon 
Date:   2007-12-01 17:07

You either have to slide with the right pinkie from D# to B (1st and 2nd notes of the measure) or slide with the left pinkie from B to C# (2nd and 3rd notes of the measure). I find the latter to be easier and smoother

Clarinetist, composer, arranger of music for clarinet ensemble

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 Re: rose etude #13
Author: Avie 
Date:   2007-12-02 17:26

I have been previously going from rt. pinky D# to B without success on my clarinet. I think that sliding my lft pinky from B to C# works better for me mechanically and will improve the run for me in time. Thanks all.



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 Re: rose etude #13
Author: NorbertTheParrot 
Date:   2007-12-02 18:26

It seems to me that the slide from B to C# (Mark Simon's solution) works very much better than D# to B (GBK's solution). In fact, I find the diagonal slide from D# to B very difficult, even mezzo-staccato as marked. Legato, it would be near-impossible.

But I'm sure GBK made his recommendation for some very good reason. I'd be interested to know what that reason is.

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 Re: rose etude #13
Author: GBK 
Date:   2007-12-02 18:46

Playing through Rose etude #13 again, another valid option, since the etude is slow enough, is to trade pinkys, doing a "retake". Thus playing the B with the left pinky and then immediately swapping to the right pinky, before playing C# with the left and D# with the right.

As to the slide:

I have ALWAYS found that the downward slide from D# to B is smoother that the B to C# slide.

I have never liked the left pinky B to C# slide because of the feeling of moving the left pinky not only downward but angling and twisting the wrist sideways, putting the left wrist in an unnatural movement.

Of course, if you favor the other, certainly do it...GBK

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 Re: rose etude #13
Author: davyd 
Date:   2007-12-03 01:27

I concur with the left-pinky-slide folks. I like the retake idea, but I can't do it fast enough.

While we're on the subject: 8 bars from the end, there's an inverted turn (just like in etude #9). I presume it should be a regular turn?

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 Re: rose etude #13
Author: Tobin 
Date:   2007-12-03 10:33

It is a regular turn.

James

Gnothi Seauton

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 Re: rose etude #13
Author: joeyscl 
Date:   2007-12-03 19:05

"As to the slide:

I have ALWAYS found that the downward slide from D# to B is smoother that the B to C# slide.

I have never liked the left pinky B to C# slide because of the feeling of moving the left pinky not only downward but angling and twisting the wrist sideways, putting the left wrist in an unnatural movement. "

same

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 Re: rose etude #13
Author: Avie 
Date:   2007-12-04 12:49

Speaking of turns, Rose etudes #9 and #13 show regular turns and #1 shows both turns inverted in my version which seems to vary in the differant versions. Unless I were playing in competition is it important how the turn starts out?

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