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Author: davyd
Date: 2007-11-30 03:33
In bar 7 of the 9th etude from Rose's 32 Etudes, there is an inverted turn. Both teachers with whom I've studied this piece inform me that this is a typo; it should be a regular turn.
First off: is this generally felt to be the case? Should the turn in fact be the non-inverted type?
Assuming that the turn should indeed be the regular type, then ...
Suppose I'm to play this etude on an audition. Do I play the turn inverted (as it's written, which further demonstrates that I know how to play that infrequently-used ornament), or regular (which demonstrates that I'm up to speed on the conventional wisdom pertaining to the work)?
I have to admit that the regular turn sounds somehow "better" in the context. But what do I know?
I recall once asking this question on a newsgroup. One responder told me to play the etude the way I know it's supposed to be played (which if I already knew, I wouldn't be asking the question in the first place).
Another responder told me to play it whichever way I felt like playing it, but to be prepared to defend my choice. This makes sense, but what if it's a "blind" audition?
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Author: GBK
Date: 2007-11-30 04:29
It is a regular turn. Play the turn using the same notes as in measure 26 of Rose #1 (of the 32)
I have never seen it written as an inverted turn, but I haven't seen ALL the different editions of Rose32.
The Hite edition, Warner edition and the Carl Fischer all notate it as a regular turn.
Interestingly, this etude, which is #21 and in A major in the original Ferling 48 Etudes, doesn't use a turn, but rather it has a trill on the F5 followed by grace notes E5 and F5 leading up to the final 2 eighth notes.
In an audition situation, play exactly what is on the page you are given. If the choice of edition is left up to you, again play exactly what is shown in your edition....GBK
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Author: LarryBocaner ★2017
Date: 2007-11-30 14:13
Not to mention that if you try to play this as an inverted turn -- a la "Rienzi" or "Rhine Journey"-- it sounds clumsy and contrived. Fuggedaboutit!
I didn't know about the trill in Ferling -- tried it, love it!
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Author: davyd
Date: 2007-12-03 01:21
My edition of the Rose 32 is Carl Fischer O439, copyright 1913. I bought this particular copy sometime in the mid 1970s. (I've had it for 30+ years? Egads!) Apparently more recent printings have the turn corrected.
"In an audition situation, play exactly what is on the page you are given."
I like that! Sound advice, indeed. I must remember it.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2007-12-03 01:48
davyd wrote;
> In bar 7 of the 9th etude from Rose's 32 Etudes, there is an inverted turn.
Which edition of Rose32 has it notated as an "inverted" turn? ...GBK
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