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 c#
Author: samohan245 
Date:   2007-11-15 20:57

this doesnt relate to the clarinet but i want to help my fellow friend.



on my friends Yanagisawa saxophone and his c# is extremely sharp, so sharp it sounds 2 pitches higher!!!



and idea why?



...... go!

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 Re: c#
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2007-11-15 23:05

Mouthpiece is in too far? Incompatible mouthpiece? Bad Neck?

player? (pinching too much)

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 Re: c#
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2007-11-15 23:15

Which C# do you mean?

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: c#
Author: samohan245 
Date:   2007-11-16 00:28

open (no fingers)

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 Re: c#
Author: EEBaum 
Date:   2007-11-16 00:44

When you say "two pitches higher," do you mean two half-tones, so it's a D#?

Are the other notes all nicely in tune?

-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com

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 Re: c#
Author: skygardener 
Date:   2007-11-16 01:42

That is impossible. I think that (s)he must be pushing a side key or something without knowing it.

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 Re: c#
Author: Bob Phillips 
Date:   2007-11-16 02:57

My old pawn-shop Soprano Sax had similar problems, but I would not expect that sort of behaviour from a Yanigisawa.

Bob Phillips

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 Re: c#
Author: GBK 
Date:   2007-11-16 02:58

samohan245 wrote:

> on my friends Yanagisawa saxophone and his c# is
> extremely sharp, so sharp it sounds 2 pitches higher!!!



Close enough for jazz.

...GBK

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 Re: c#
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2007-11-16 07:14

>> Close enough for jazz. <<

No jazz... it's a Yanagisawa  :)

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 Re: c#
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2007-11-16 11:11

The open C# is normally flat, and can be remedied and resonated using the following fingerings:

8ve oox|ooo
8ve oox|xoo
8ve oox|xxo
8ve oox|xxxEb
8ve oox|xxx

So if it's sharp, there must be something strange going on (which has already been mentioned).

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: c#
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2007-11-16 14:19

"Sounds" to me like an open "palm" key, the highest one ??. Small hands? Don

Thanx, Mark, Don

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 Re: c#
Author: samohan245 
Date:   2007-11-16 19:19

nope trust me ive seen this GUY play. no fingers not hitting any other keys.

yeah like a d#

and all the other notes are perfect

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 Re: c#
Author: skygardener 
Date:   2007-11-16 22:17

what size sax is this?
so he fingers B and B comes out, C and C comes out, C# and D# comes out, D and D comes out? If he plays all fingers open he gets the same sound as if he plays 8va xxxlxxx D# ???

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 Re: c#
Author: stevesklar 
Date:   2007-11-17 10:42

that leads us to the C# tone hole - or the top tone hole in the upper stack that is attached to the upper stack mechanism. BUT it should be a sharp C#, not a D# coming out. By lowering the action it bring it in tune .. but not if it's a D#

something else is outta whack.

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 Re: c#
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2007-11-17 13:10

A bumper cork has probably fallen off, letting the key open too wide.

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 Re: c#
Author: skygardener 
Date:   2007-11-17 13:17

You could take all thoes keys up to the c# hole off and it still wouldn't be d#. I'd bet my best reed that he's pushing a side key.

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 Re: c#
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2007-11-17 14:07

Yanagisawas have excellent tuning, so something funny must be going on somewhere as there's no way the open C# will sound a whole tone higher than a C# - there's nothing mechanical that will cause this oddity without any intervention from the player.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: c#
Author: stevesklar 
Date:   2007-11-17 18:58

neck octave not closing all the way??? (assuming he's not touching anything)

something stuck in the horn ?

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 Re: c#
Author: samohan245 
Date:   2007-11-17 21:50

ill check with him see whats wrong with it.

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