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Author: BAC
Date: 2000-07-26 13:33
I bought a couple of "Music Plus One" instruction books (or is it minus one, damn memory). For those of you who are not familiar with this set would be interested in the concept. You get a book to practice a type of music, Jazz say, along with a CD that has the band accompaniment, except the main instrument is missing, that is where you come in. You play along as the soloist. Of course, I bought the one for clarinet.
There is very little instruction with this, except to 'play along'. Since trying to play jazz is so new to me, and clarinet is also new - I'm a bit bewildered.
I need more guidance - anyone familiar enough to give pointers to a lowly want-to-be?
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Author: Bob Gardner
Date: 2000-07-26 14:04
forget the cd and learn the music. I have tried the cd's and got lost right from the gitgo. Maybe later in time when i get better I'll go back to the cd.
From another wantabe.
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Author: Kevin L. Oviatt
Date: 2000-07-26 23:41
Jamey Abersold has comprehensive instructional CDs with all the on paper supplementals for Jazz instuctions if that is what you need.
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Author: Hiroshi
Date: 2000-07-27 02:54
As to classic field Music Minus One Laureate series are super. Three soloists,Jerome Bunke,Harold Wright,and Stanley Drucker, play each solo with piano accompaniment and then you play with piano. Brief instruction and sheet music are included.
Aeborsold CD is famous to Jazz people. Another one is published from Schott for flute,clarinet,sax,and trumpet.
Instruction includes music basics,sheet music,fingering,mode,and improvisation.
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Author: BAC
Date: 2000-07-27 03:27
Well I'm back home now - its been a while since I threw these in the corner, but indeed these are the Jamey Aebersold series "How to play Jazz and Improvise".
This guys is talking about minor-dorian on page 10 of book 1. It seems that you must be a fairly advanced player, and know a lot of music prior to Jazz - would that be a true statement or am I just not getting it?
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2000-07-27 03:40
BAC wrote:
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This guys is talking about minor-dorian on page 10 of book 1. It seems that you must be a fairly advanced player, and know a lot of music prior to Jazz - would that be a true statement or am I just not getting it?
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Nah - just learn the notes in the scale, listen for the melody, and try playing along. The name of the scale is just a shorthand for the notes you'll be playing (sometimes the labels are scarier than just playing & listening to the notes).
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Author: Franco DiNapoli
Date: 2000-07-28 14:38
Regarding the Music Minus One series:
I bought several Music Minus One duettes for Piano and Clarinet. Although the arrangements were very good, they only supplied the clarinet part; there was no written piano part. When I bought them I was thinking: "I'll practice my part along with the CD and when I have the pieces under my belt, I'll play them with my pianist friend." However with no music for the piano part I would be unable to play with live piano accompaniment. I called up Music Minus One, they told me to call Theodore Presser who could not help because these were arrangements comissioned by MMO and they did not have them. Anyway after getting nowhere with MMO, I decided to take the music and the CD and THROW THEM IN THE GARBAGE.
In my opinion the best part of music is being able to play with others. Why would I spend the time to learn music that I cannot play with others.
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Author: BAC
Date: 2000-07-28 15:13
Good point Franco,
My goal would be to use these to help me prepare to play with others. If you don't have that then you really need to find people either at your own level who are learning with you, or very patient people.
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Author: Dee
Date: 2000-07-28 21:53
Franco DiNapoli wrote:
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... Anyway after getting nowhere with MMO, I decided to take the music and the CD and THROW THEM IN THE GARBAGE.
In my opinion the best part of music is being able to play with others. Why would I spend the time to learn music that I cannot play with others.
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You were premature in your actions. Practice with the MMO CD but then go buy a piano/clarinet arrangement to play with friends. It does not need to be an exact match to the MMO arrangement. For the standard repertoire, the differences won't be that great in the solo part. Afterall MMO never advertises that the piano/orchestral part comes with the package.
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Author: Allen Cole
Date: 2000-07-30 23:34
MMO's Easy Clarinet Solos are taken from a book by Amsco/Music Sales called Easy Clarinet Solos or Duets. Only the clarinet solo book is included in the MMO package. Get the real book from Amsco, or whoever sells their products these days.
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Author: Allen Cole
Date: 2000-07-31 00:18
First, get familiar with your instrument. Many would-be jazzers make a serious error when they try to synthesize it from the Jamey Aebersold books without adequete experience in jazz listening or in playing an instrument by ear. All of the different scales in the Aebersold books can be daunting to the inexperienced. You need to have enough experience to realize that C Ionian, D Dorian and G Mixolydian are ALL THE SAME NOTES!
Second: If you are also new to your instrument, learn at least half a dozen major scales. These provide the yardstick by which we measure the melodies we hear. They also provide a straight-edge for our fingering so that our minds are free to deal with other factors.
Third: Try playing by ear. Learn simple songs that use the notes of the major scale. Visit my website at http://allencole.tripod.com/jamschool/play_ear.htm for a list of such simple tunes that you can learn on your C scale.
Fourth: Get familiar with the music that you're interested in learning. Most jazz and rock musicians have learned to improvise by learning to play along with their favorite records. This is a painstaking process with no quick-and-easy shorcuts. It is, however, the richest learning process you'll ever go through. Benny Goodman is a great place to start.
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Author: BAC
Date: 2000-07-31 19:24
All good advice - thanks.
The Jazz book does say for all players, regardless of level.
I did just figure out one thing last night. The very first exercises are learning the various scales. What was killing me was the fact that he was showing nine notes! I was of course trying to play all nine on each scale and the timing never worked out. Once I dropped that last note and only played eight notes, the timing worked out OK. Why is the ninth note written?
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Author: Allen Cole
Date: 2000-08-01 04:19
The books ARE for all levels. What I'm saying is that they're not intended by their author to be your only source of jazz knowledge. The best way to use the book is by reading VERY carefully the text portion at the beginning of the book. There is much wisdom there that many beginners just skip over.
As for your 9-note scale, I'm not sure which one you're referring to. In some exercises, he may run scales up to the ninth in order to demonstrate chord spelling. (note that chord tones look different than other scale elements in these illustrations)
There are also scales which have more than seven notes. One that he presents is the so-called Bebop scale where there is both a major and minor seventh. (C-D-E-F-G-A-Bb-B-C) Another might be the diminished scale, which alternates whole and half steps. (C-D-Eb-F-F#-G#-A-B-C) Or you might have a short scale to deal with. A whole tone scale only has six notes because all notes are a whole step apart. (C-D-E-F#-G#-Bb-C) Ditto for the Blues Scale. (C-Eb-F-F#-G-Bb-C)
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