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Author: janlynn
Date: 2007-10-21 12:02
yesterday my teacher gave me a book called "Concert and Contest Collection" by Voxman. she pointed out about 4 pieces I can choose from to play at the workshop in march. its kinda hard not having heard any of the pieces (any idea where I can hear them online?)
so maybe some of you know what they sound like and can tell me if you like them......
1.Allegretto Fantasia by Sextus Miskow
2.Allegretto Graziozo (from Sonota in F minor) by Brahms
3.Aria and Scherzo by Agostino Gabucci
4.Canzonetta by Gabrie Pierne
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Author: Ed
Date: 2007-10-21 13:33
The Brahms is great music and you should be able to find a recording no problem. I have always liked the Pierne Canzonetta. If you can find the old recording by Louis Cahuzac, it is absolutely delightful and very charming.
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Author: srattle
Date: 2007-10-21 15:21
I don't know what level you are, but most likely if you have never heard the Brahms sonata, it's probably not the right time to start working on that piece. It's devilishly hard to play, and to understand, and takes (in my opinion) many performances to learn what needs to be done.
I'm afraid I don't know the rest of the pieces
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Author: janlynn
Date: 2007-10-21 18:02
well, i consider myself high intermediate (maybe advanced) - others consider me advanced. my teacher has not given an opinion tho - im not sure she would reccommend a piece i wasnt capable of playing.
at times it appears (on here) that i am just learning because in a way i am - as i missed a lot in my early playing years and im just learning some things now. i have played in our community wind symphony for 9 years and prior to that, played 4th grade - 12th grade with no instruction and 2 years college with some instruction. then i stopped for 12 years. hope that gives you a better idea of my level.
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Author: grifffinity
Date: 2007-10-21 22:33
As mentioned before, the two works which will be easiest to find on CD will be the Brahms Op.120 #1 3rd Mvt. and the Canzonetta (although you may have to search a bit harder to find a recording). Google is your friend.
I know the Voxman book from 20 years ago, when it was used for Intermediate All-shore band auditions in my state. The other works I don't ever recall seeing on recording, unless someone has made a recording of the Voxman book. I am pretty sure Smart Music has an accompaniment for the Voxman book - if you have access to that program. You would then be able to hear piano accompaniments for all the pieces.
That particular movement of the Brahms is not difficult in terms of basic technique, although it is difficult for other reasons. The most difficult thing about the Brahms is understanding the relationship between the piano and clarinet - Brahms is chamber music more than clarinet solo w/piano accompaniment. I would say the Canzonetta would be a bit more challanging in terms of technique since you need clean, fast fingers for several arpeggiated runs which are quite exposed.
Post Edited (2007-10-21 22:34)
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Author: hinotehud ★2017
Date: 2007-10-22 00:48
You will find the best CD of all these tunes by Paul Votapek.
Paul Votapek 112 Flame Vine Drive Naples FL 34110 for $17.00 total. His email address is: votapek@comcast.net
You can read my review at:
http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=242207&t=242207
Michele Gingras (clarinet prof. at Miami of Ohio Univ.) also raved about his CD in the latest "Clarinet" Magazine.
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Author: janlynn
Date: 2007-10-22 00:51
Thank you. i ordered the CD. got to hear a sound clip of each piece too. awsome.
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Author: Philip Caron
Date: 2007-10-22 01:59
Re the Brahms, he had many modes of expression all his own. As part of studying this piece, it would be very helpful to become familiar with as much of his other output as possible, especially chamber music and the late piano pieces. As another poster said, the writing for piano is vital here, not really accompaniment at all.
I heard a recording on the radio a few years ago. I don't recall the clarinetist, but the pianist was Vladimir Ashkenazy. The performance frustrated me, as I got the impression that the clarinetist, though making no technical errors, was a complete vacuum in terms of the music, as though his only exposure to Brahms was sitting alone in front of the music stand playing these notes. By contrast, Ashkenazy was working subtle wonders of phrasing and pedalling, beautifully Brahmsian to my ears. The two were miles apart.
Despite the two works' popularity (there's a second sonata in Eb, both Op. 120,) I'm not satisfied with many of the recordings I've heard. One I do like is Harold Wright and Peter Serkin (on Boston Records.) There's also a fine version featuring Walter Primrose, which though it substitutes viola for clarinet still projects some moving insights into the Brahms' special world.
I think you should start working on these sonatas, if not for the workshop, then for your own enjoyment and exploration. I probably had the notes down in a week, but after many years I'm still discovering how excellent this music can be.
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Author: janlynn
Date: 2007-10-22 03:45
ok well everyone has scared me away from the brahms - so scratch that one.
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