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 Left hand or Right?
Author: janlynn 
Date:   2007-10-14 13:41

When playing the D major scale (Baermann edited by hite), how do you determine on which hand to play the low E, F#, the middle B, C# going up the scale and then the C#, B and F#,E going down?

my teacher was getting me to play all B's with the Right hand, but she marked my book with the C# being played with the Right hand so the B would have to be played with the left.

I sent her an email, but im anxious to know what others do. is there some kind of rule?

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 Re: Left hand or Right?
Author: Danny Boy 
Date:   2007-10-14 13:57

First half of post edited as I misread in the first place...it is however still valid...

(Your teacher has probably marked your music with the right hand side for a reason...students quite often come to me being versed in the use of only left OR right, so I'll set work to be practised with one side exclusively in order to get them used to using the opposite to what they are used to.)


In the long term, you should be able to use both and change at liberty, there is no set way of playing D major in terms of left/right work.

In the short term, follow the markings and change the Bs so that you can play the C sharps on the side that is marked.



Post Edited (2007-10-14 13:59)

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 Re: Left hand or Right?
Author: janlynn 
Date:   2007-10-14 14:42

but i think she made a mistake. shes been wanting me to play B's on the right, and now she has marked the C# for Right and B for left - the opposite of what shes been telling me to do.

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 Re: Left hand or Right?
Author: pelo_ensortijado 
Date:   2007-10-14 15:57

just ask her then? during the time, do as you are told! :D



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 Re: Left hand or Right?
Author: janlynn 
Date:   2007-10-14 18:23

I did send her an email. if she made a mistake a dont want to practice it wrong for a week.

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 Re: Left hand or Right?
Author: donald 
Date:   2007-10-14 19:31

you will be ok, just practise using the L key... (for middle line B)
that key is better for scale passages in the keys of C and G, two of the most common keys, so using it in D won't hurt your technique.
As said above, your teacher may want to encourage you to improve your technique when using the R key- however practising it the other way isn't "wrong", is in fact probably "better", so you won't be "hurting" your playing by doing this for a week until you can sort it out at your next lesson.
donald

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 Re: Left hand or Right?
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2007-10-14 22:23

Since 3 of the 4 "long" Rt Hand L F keys are duplicated for the Left little finger, I've always considered that "cross-fingering" teaching-learning is a requirement. This points out the desireability of having the Ab/Eb ALSO duplicated for the Left L F, IMHO, it'll "save your life" when playing in keys of many sharps, and flats. Just PM thots. Don

Thanx, Mark, Don

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 Re: Left hand or Right?
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2007-10-14 22:30

Janlynn -

There's no such thing as "practicing the wrong thing." As Danny Boy says, you have to learn to do it both ways. In fact, practice it both ways for this week, so you're prepared to do anything your teacher asks for at your next lesson.

Practice both ways really slowly. Set your metronome to its slowest speed, prepare each note change and picture yourself doing it perfectly. Then, DO it perfectly.

Practicing engraves the finger movements into your muscle memory, and slow practice is just as effective as fast. Never go faster than perfect. If you permit even the slightest bobble, what you're doing is practicing how to make mistakes.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: Left hand or Right?
Author: Hank Lehrer 
Date:   2007-10-15 01:27

ken,

Extremely well put; nice work as usual.

I try to actually find opportunities to use both R and L fingerings but if you have a D#/Eb in the mix, your choices are limited. However, I try to engineer that into practicing a little slide fingering which when it is required by the passage, is always interesting. I like to always include a couple of octaves of a B scale followed by C, and then Db. Working the scales that way really can become automatic after a little while.

HRL

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 Re: Left hand or Right?
Author: BobD 
Date:   2007-10-15 12:41

Facility when using these fingerings ...and getting the desired sound.....also depends on how well the keywork mechanisms and pads are adjusted. Ken's point about muscle memory and how easy it is to learn something wrong is very well made. Good point about "slide fingering" Hank since we don't hear much about that technique these days. Bring back the "rollers".

Bob Draznik

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 Re: Left hand or Right?
Author: Hank Lehrer 
Date:   2007-10-16 03:14

Draz,

You are right. As much as we all hate it, there are always a few places where the sliding of fingers is the only way unless you have the LH Eb/Ab. I had a Series 9 with the full set of keys and with my poor technical prowess with the LH pinky's, things just got in the way.

I can't emphasize enough that a player must find ways to purposefully use the LH and RH alternates under working conditions (during a rehearsal on a non-critical passage or phrase). Now that can really build confidence rather than just playing scales and eludes/studies.

HRL



Post Edited (2007-10-16 14:37)

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