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Author: lorimarga1
Date: 2007-09-21 16:12
Hi! I know that the buffet r13 is best for concert. What is the best Bb clarinet for high school and college marching band? My daughter has an Armstrong 4001 that has served her well, but she needs a more advanced resin clarinet. Any suggestions? Thanks!
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Author: GBK
Date: 2007-09-21 16:27
lorimarga1 wrote:
> Hi! I know that the buffet r13 is best for concert.
Highly subjective, considering the numerous top of the line models available, both handmade and mass produced.
The most widely used in advanced settings? Probably
> What is
> the best Bb clarinet for high school and college marching band?
> My daughter has an Armstrong 4001 that has served her well,
> but she needs a more advanced resin clarinet. Any suggestions?
> Thanks!
A more advanced resin clarinet? Why?
Save your money. For the most part, clarinets are inaudible in the marching band.
...GBK
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2007-09-21 16:36
GBK wrote:
> A more advanced resin clarinet? Why?
>
> Save your money.
Indeed. If you want to spend money, invest in a checkup/service every so often.
> For the most part, clarinets are inaudible in the marching band.
<rolls back sleeves> Oh yea? They are? I'll give you inaudible!
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Yesterday the director complained that we were too loud...
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Ben
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2007-09-21 16:41
The best clarinet for marching band is actually a trumpet. That's all you hear out in the stands anyway..................
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Author: GBK
Date: 2007-09-21 16:44
Most kids in high school and college marching band use their first, beginner clarinet, or any serviceable "I don't care what happens to it" plastic/hard rubber clarinet.
Considering the elements/weather and the many things that can happen to a concert grade instrument outdoors, I would use what you already have...GBK
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Author: GBK
Date: 2007-09-21 16:47
EEBaum wrote:
> I was impressed with the Rossi Andino at Clarinetfest. If I
> were buying a horn for outdoors, I'd probably go with that.
> Under $500, IIRC.
I was impressed with the Vito V40. I'd probably go with that. About $25 ...GBK
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Author: Ed
Date: 2007-09-21 17:16
Years ago I had a student who had a basic student clarinet that my repairman had set up for her with Valentino synthetic pads on many of the keys. She used this throughout a couple of marching band seasons and it played well and held up great.
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Author: James
Date: 2007-09-21 17:36
Well, I haven't played on much as far as marching clarinets go, but I'll at least share my story. I have a 12 year old Bundy that my brother bought for $80 when he first started playing. He marched it for two years before switching to alto sax, and then I used it all four years in high school. The things been but through countless concert seasons, 70 or so football games, at least 30 compitions, 6 band camps, and just about every weather condition imaginable (thank you NE Ohio). Not even to mention the abuse that two young and ambitious musicians have put on it. Believe it or not depsite all of that it still plays as good as it did brand new. It just goes to show that as long as you take care of it, some of those plastic horns are darn near bulletproof. Just find something that you like and keep it in shape.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2007-09-21 17:42
James wrote:
> I have a 12 year old Bundy
> that my brother bought for $80 when he first started playing.
> He marched it for two years before switching to alto sax, and
> then I used it all four years in high school. The things been
> but through countless concert seasons, 70 or so football games,
> at least 30 compitions, 6 band camps, and just about every
> weather condition imaginable ...etc..."
Ah....the famous Bundy "beater." A familiar sight to band directors, world wide.
Their durability is exactly why elementary schools buy them by the truck load...GBK
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Author: davyd
Date: 2007-09-21 17:47
Forget clarinet in marching band. If you're in marching band because it's mandatory, then be the drum major, or a baton twirler, or wave a flag, or schlep the equipment, or something like that.
Alternatively: marching band would be a good way to start on saxophone.
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Author: claritoot26
Date: 2007-09-21 18:31
Agree with davyd. in my senior hs year, we had 18 clarinets and 3 alto saxes, so i asked if i could play alto sax since i didn't have a marching clarinet. also tried for drum majorette, but i wasn't authoritative enough for that. Or, stick with the plastic clarinet you already have. Get it tuned up by a trusted professional about once a year.
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Author: lorimarga1
Date: 2007-09-21 19:15
Thanks for the recommendation. I've never heard of a Rossi Andino. I'll look into it.
And to everyone who said to switch to a brass instrument- My daughter is a very advance concert clarinetist who happens to enjoy marching band, and when you are a part of a marching band with 30+ clarinets that's been 2 time national champs in recent years, you realize that every instrument can be heard.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2007-09-21 20:31
Well, you could play a nickel plated brass clarinet.
Bob Draznik
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Author: Mags1957
Date: 2007-09-21 20:51
The Ridenour Lyrique would be a great choice. Pro level horn, made out of rubber, so not affected by weather, etc. Last I checked they were $850 or so for the base model. And she'll have a great "second" horn when hers is in the shop. The Lyrique has replaced my Buffet Prestige and Yamaha Custom as my top horn, even indoors. It's that good.
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Author: pplateau
Date: 2007-09-21 21:03
Any Vito : V-40 , 7214, 7212; altho what she has now is probably fine for marching band, the Vito's may not be much improvement; so invest in maintaining what she has for marching band.; you could try a different barrel on it if you wish.
Post Edited (2007-09-21 21:19)
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2007-09-21 21:31
In the West Point Band, everyone was issued a Resonite Bundy. It's indestructible and 100% reliable. I used the stock Goldentone mouthpiece and brown-box Rico reeds -- a new one every year whether it needed it or not. These days I'd use a Legere.
Bundys can be found for $50 or less on eBay. The old ones had a needle spring on the throat A key, which snapped easily. Be sure to get one with a flat spring for that key.
As long as it's playable, the Armstrong will also do perfectly well. Marching band is not about finesse or advanced instruments. Just something that will withstand heat, cold and abuse.
Ken Shaw
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Author: GBK
Date: 2007-09-21 21:40
Ken Shaw wrote:
> I used the stock
> Goldentone mouthpiece and brown-box Rico reeds -- a new one
> every year whether it needed it or not.
One reed a year?
You must have taught some of my students.
...GBK
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Author: marshall
Date: 2007-09-24 02:53
Whoever said Bundy nailed it. My highschool has enough 577's to sink a ship. They last for EVER. I marched on one for my three years of marching clarinet, before me it saw 2 seasons with one kid and is now being marched by another. The only tune-up it's had is having a few pads replaced every season, even through multiple instances where it fell apart between the joints and the upper one went crashing to the ground (eventually I replaced that cork because it kept falling apart).
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Author: Sarah Elbaz
Date: 2007-09-24 08:31
The R-13 Green Line will be great for oncert and marching band as well.
Sarah
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2007-09-24 12:36
Sacrificing a real clarinet to marching band use is just a travesty. Use the cheapest horn that plays reliably. As mentioned above, nobody is going to hear the tone of a clarinet in a marching band. And one reed for a year of marching band sounds about right. Why waste money on more than that? Spend it on concessions after halftime! ![[toast]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smiley15.gif)
I would actually put the money toward her college fund, rather than get a new instrument. If you really feel you have to go out and spend the extra bucks, go ahead. Look at the Lyrique, or a Forte with a Powerbarrel. Anything beyond that is like spraying a tiny bottle of perfume over a landfill, trying to keep it from reeking. ![[tongue]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie6.gif) This is not a slam against either the Lyrique or the Forte, by the way. It's a comment on the nature of marching bands, in general. They are great for parades and playing Sousa, et al, but that's about it.
Jeff
“Everyone discovers their own way of destroying themselves, and some people choose the clarinet.” Kalman Opperman, 1919-2010
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