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 Scratched Table
Author: Clariphant in Bb 
Date:   2007-09-23 18:06

When I was practicing last night, I noticed that my Fobes Cicero 14 had a bunch of light surface scartches at one area about halfway down the table. They have almost no depth to them at all, and I don't notice any problems. Is it possible to get table scratches that don't cause problems? What problems exactly would scratches on the table cause (in case I'm just missing them)?

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 Re: Scratched Table
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2007-09-23 19:30

You sure they're not filing traces from manufacturing? I've always regarded these as a good sign of after-manufacturing manual tuning. Or did those scratches appear some time after you've been using the mouthpiece?


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 Re: Scratched Table
Author: Clariphant in Bb 
Date:   2007-09-24 00:27

They just appeared and were not their at the time of purchase. They about an inch below the bottom of the window, and they're at an area of the table where the reed extends past the sides of the table. I'm thinking it's probably too far down on the mouthpiece to matter. I just finished practicing for a couple hours and had no problem.

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 Re: Scratched Table
Author: skygardener 
Date:   2007-09-24 02:10

since they are so small and so fine they are most likely from sandpaper and part of manufacturing. They might have always been there and you weren't in the right light to see it.

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 Re: Scratched Table
Author: C2thew 
Date:   2007-09-24 02:15

if it ain't broken, don't fix it.

Our inventions are wont to be pretty toys, which distract our attention from serious things. they are but improved means to an unimproved end, an end which was already but too easy to arrive as railroads lead to Boston to New York
-Walden; Henry Thoreau

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 Re: Scratched Table
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2007-09-24 05:35

C2thew wrote:

> if it ain't broken, don't fix it.

I'm with that statement. If you're REALLY worried, send it to the maker himself (Mr. Fobes). He'd know best about his mouthpiece.


US Army Japan Band

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 Re: Scratched Table
Author: DAVE 
Date:   2007-09-24 06:05

A light scratch there will do nothing to the mouthpiece. Just play it. Backun puts three giant cuts in the table there and the mouthpieces play fine. It's nothing.

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 Re: Scratched Table
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2007-09-24 13:17

I DO agree with the above "leave it alone" advice, BUT, looking-at/cleaning-up student cl mps, if the table is not shiny, or is moderately "scratched", I'll "polish" it by a few "draws" on newspaper for [at least] a better appearance. If "seriously" scratched or tip-nicked, I'll slightly reface it by a few draws on 600 or higher SiC paper, bearing in mind that table flattening will reduce the length-of lay, so a very slight "touch" on the lay to the tip is often helpful. For serious refacing, I'd go th the Yahoo Group site "Mouthpiece Work" for pro advice and perhaps servicing by one of our goodly number of mp workers. My motto is "be careful". Don

Thanx, Mark, Don

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 Re: Scratched Table
Author: skygardener 
Date:   2007-09-24 13:33

Thinking about- it might be some scratches from the sand paper where the polish hadn't reached (if polish was used). It wasn't visable when you got it because the rubber took a long time to oxidize. ... maybe.

Post Edited (2007-09-24 13:48)

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 Re: Scratched Table
Author: redwine 
Date:   2007-09-24 15:37


What you describe shouldn't be a problem. Especially since you've played it with no ill effect. I will usually run my fingernail over the scratch and if I can feel it (a bump), then I'll sand it out. If there is no bump, then I'd ignore it. If you do decide to sand it out, be very careful (I would recommend having a mouthpiece refacer do it to be safe), because it is very easy to change the facing inadvertently. Most mouthpiece workers will do this kind of work for little or no money.

Ben Redwine, DMA
owner, RJ Music Group
Assistant Professor, The Catholic University of America
Selmer Paris artist

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