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Author: Biased R13 Guy
Date: 2007-09-18 23:58
I just heard from my teacher that Stanley Drucker has retired from the NY phil. today. Word is that the orchestra is offering Charles Neidich the contract.
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Author: Kevin
Date: 2007-09-19 00:14
If that's true, I'd be very surprised at such a sudden decision coming from Mr. Drucker. Are you sure that he is not just ANNOUNCING his retirement? Perhaps effective at the end of the 2007-2008 season?
Post Edited (2007-09-19 02:04)
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Author: grifffinity
Date: 2007-09-19 00:46
Well, if it is true, I wonder if there will be a mention during tonights (on now) Live From Lincoln Center broadcast. He's playing the Dvorak Cello Concerto as I write.
BTW - who is your teacher Biased? Are they active in the NY scene?
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Author: BobD
Date: 2007-09-19 10:36
Hmm....sure looked like YoYo Ma to me.
Bob Draznik
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2007-09-19 11:57
Word is that the orchestra is offering Charles Neidich the contract.
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How can that be? Wouldn't there be a Union issue with a job offered to any player without there being a formal audition? I'm really glad for him if that's true - I studied with Charlie, but am surprised.
I know that Principal Trumpet Boston Sym. Charlie Schluter was asked to audition for the Orchestra and he replied to them "I don't do nude auditions" - so his audition was playing in the Orchestra. That was told to me by him at the Teton Festival.
But that was over 20 years ago.
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Author: Mark G Simon
Date: 2007-09-19 14:30
I'm wondering if Biased R13's teacher misspoke and meant to say Larry Combs?
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Author: LarryBocaner ★2017
Date: 2007-09-19 14:59
The whole story sounds bogus to me! US major symphonies do not offer tenure-track appointments, even to distinguished players like Neidich. One year interim hirings might be the case occasionally, but contractually most orchestras, including--I'm sure--the Philharmonic, are bound to have more-or-less open auditions.
Case in point: when the Met Opera had to fill Morales' vacancy on short notice they appointed John Manasse to a one-year position, pending auditions. Manasse played brilliantly that year, but due to illness (pneumonia!) he was not up to par for the audition, and, sadly, was not engaged for the tenure-track position.
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Author: CPW
Date: 2007-09-19 15:34
The NYP leadership is being very specific.
They want a certain sound, and specify a Couenson Monopole player.
As referenced by GBK in another thread, this means that the new principal could only be Dave Spiegenthal.
Also, they are very picky about style. Issac Mizrachi is hired to do couture for the clarinetists. Nuccio will be wearing sequins next season.
All this means one thing. BS.
Perhaps Mr Moses has the real scoop...and I will bet my pile of good reeds (is there such a thing?) that if this whole thing is happening, it is not occuring in the said manner.
Against the windmills of my mind
The jousting pole splinters
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Author: Old Geezer
Date: 2007-09-19 16:15
Stanley looked great in the live broadcast last night. Not likely that he's retiring soon.
Yo-yo played well while appearing to be under the influence of a uncontroled showboat substance. Lorin seemed a bit detached as was the orchestra. It's easy to seen why everyone is so wild about Dudomel. If he had the baton last night, it would have been a different orchestra!
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Author: Iacuras
Date: 2007-09-19 16:18
According to Bil Jackson, Stanley is indeed retiring at the end of this year. As is Larry Combs. I was told this by him at my studio/orchestral excerpts class with him on monday.
Steve
"If a pretty poster and a cute saying are all it takes to motivate you, you probably have a very easy job. The kind robots will be doing soon."
"If you can't learn to do something well, learn to enjoy doing it poorly."
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Author: Mark Charette ★2017
Date: 2007-09-19 16:28
Old Geezer wrote:
> Yo-yo played well while appearing to be under the influence of
> a uncontroled showboat substance.
Have you ever seen a performace where you wouldn't make a comment like that? You've never noted such a performance here on the BBoard ...
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Author: Old Geezer
Date: 2007-09-19 17:09
Yes I have seen a number of performances where the player was restrained and in control: Piatorgorsky, live, videos of the great English woman cellist and Pablo Casals who was perfect in every way.
I attended live performances of Marion Anderson who sang with her eyes closed, her hands clasped quietly at waist level, yet able to enthrall and thrill the audience!
I attended live performances of Heiftz who hardly moved anything but his bow arm and left hand. He had the entire audience almost moaning in delight. He didnt seem to break a sweat, although he really did, wiping his brow a couple of times.
Actually it may be that video (close ups etc.) is unfair to modern performers. I have a video of the Ring where Seigfried, close up, drools a lot and once let fly with a lunger upstage. So who knows?
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Author: CPW
Date: 2007-09-19 17:34
Nothing compared to baseball player scratching their hinterlands.
And wasnt it Nitschke who would return to the sideline after scoring a TD and light up a smoke?
The Rat Pack used to bring a whole bar setup onto the stage. Maybe the NYPhil management could do the same, complete w. cocktail servers.
I hear Nuccio mixes a mean Cosmopolitan.
Against the windmills of my mind
The jousting pole splinters
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Author: Mark Charette ★2017
Date: 2007-09-19 17:35
Old Geezer wrote:
> videos of the great English woman cellist
Jackie duPre' ? Not moving? When?
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Author: Old Geezer
Date: 2007-09-19 20:27
There's more than one great English woman cellist!
Then, of course, there's the great America violinist, Nadja Salerno-Sonnenberg, whose platform manner is always elegant and ideal!
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Author: Bubalooy
Date: 2007-09-19 20:55
We're straying from the subject of Drucker here but who gets to define what "ideal" platform manner is?
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Author: Ryan25
Date: 2007-09-19 21:01
Old Geezer,
You are living in the past with your notions of "proper" stage presence. You seem to demonstrate a lot of "Old School", conservative ideas about live classical music yet also make statements like "a historic career" about a flamboyant conductor like Dudamel.
You make it real hard to take anything you say with anything less than a grain of salt.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2007-09-19 21:49
I thought YoYo was truly inspired with the Dvorak and who can fault Mr. Maazel who is an Old Geezer himself and still tops. I do find the combination of Ma and Maazel ironic , however, .....fit for a Seinfeld episode.
Bob Draznik
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Author: grifffinity
Date: 2007-09-19 22:15
Wait - back on topic.
Do we have any confimation that Drucker is retiring other than rumor? With Larry Combs we had confirmation from a press release before the season started. Wouldn't there have been mention in the Times or at the least, on NYPhil.org if there was an official statement?
Post Edited (2007-09-19 22:26)
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2007-09-19 22:24
FYI a highly placed person within the organization tells me that they have "no knowledge" of SD retiring. So perhaps there is some "whispering down the lane" confusion here.
Allan
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-
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Author: Bradley
Date: 2007-09-19 23:25
I can't believe it came to actually asking an orchestra member to disprove this. I guess that's the only way, sometimes.
What takes the 'disbelief cake', however, is the fact that we're still beating the thoroughly dead movement-on-stage horse.
Bradley
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2007-09-19 23:28
Gordian knot?
Leave it to a surgeon to "cut to the chase."![[grin]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie5.gif)
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-
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Author: RodRubber
Date: 2007-09-19 23:47
For the future: Perhaps we should avoid postings rumors or heresay regarding peoples employment etc.
In the last several weeks, people have posted absolutely incorrect rumors about particular audition winners, and also in this particular thread. When you see an audition announcement in the International Musician, then you will know for sure Mr. Drucker has retired.
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Author: elmo lewis
Date: 2007-09-20 02:26
¿Did anyone notice that Maazel wasn't wearing a tie? He just had his shirt buttoned to the top. ¿Is this SOP for Maazel or did he just have a senior moment in the dressing room?
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Author: Mark G Simon
Date: 2007-09-20 02:39
Wardrobe malfunction?
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