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 older R13 clarinets
Author: srattle 
Date:   2007-09-12 21:50

Hi and sorry if this has been asked 100s of times.
What is the best way to go about finding and buying an older r13 (60s/70s)?
I'm interested in looking for a new instrument, and I've heard only good things about the earlier R13s, but I don't know where to look, other than ebay (which I'm not so comfortable with for a instrument)
Any ideas of where I could start?

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 Re: older R13 clarinets
Author: Synonymous Botch 
Date:   2007-09-12 23:53

These were still mostly handmade until the late 1970's, and variable as a result... it will serve you well to have a trial of any candidate.

Have a look over at Sax on The Web, in their marketplace.

Their are often older R13s available there.

Have you tried Saxofoonwinkel in the Netherlands?

You may also want to consider one of the newer design hard rubber clarinets, both the Forte and Ridenour products are superior instruments at a fraction of the Buffet cost.

(I play an Arioso, and keep my Opus pair in the dark!)

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 Re: older R13 clarinets
Author: D Dow 
Date:   2007-09-13 00:16

The R13 clarinets from the late 60s to 1978 or so were very well made...prior to that I have great reservations on whether or not it is worth reviving a really old clarinet. There is also a better chance I feel in getting a better new clarinet.

David Dow

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 Re: older R13 clarinets
Author: Katrina 
Date:   2007-09-13 01:44

Hmmm....find GBK's house and dress all in black and....

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 Re: older R13 clarinets
Author: GBK 
Date:   2007-09-13 02:28

I have 13 Buffets, and other than one from 1939, the other 12 (R13's) are between 1962 and 1986.

Although I've played and selected many newer Buffets for students, (IMO) very few compare to those from the 1960's and 1970's.

Whether it was the wood, the (handmade) assembly, or the design of that era, there WAS something different about those instruments.

If you find an older Buffet that feels a bit loose or lacking the playing qualities you desire, before dismissing it, try a different barrel to see if that changes your opinion.

Often, on older instruments, I have found that changing the barrel can breathe new life into an otherwise excellent instrument

(BTW - Until Buffet decides to change the current nylon pin connection for the LH F#/C# and E/B, I refuse to consider or recommend the new ones)...GBK

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 Re: older R13 clarinets
Author: Tobin 
Date:   2007-09-13 02:39

Hello srattle,

You could contact a clarinet finder like Lisa Argiris or Walter Grabner. Walter has a '60's clarinet available right now...


Or either could keep an eye out for you.


...who loves his '67 R13.

Gnothi Seauton

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 Re: older R13 clarinets
Author: Synonymous Botch 
Date:   2007-09-13 13:33


Posted at Sax On The web, selling a Buffet RC prestige in Yorkshire, England.

Pricey, but perhaps a lead?

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 Re: older R13 clarinets
Author: rtmyth 
Date:   2007-09-13 13:54

Try before buy. For all makes and models, only a few , even when new, are of artist quality. For value as well as quality, , I would try a Forte and a Ridenour . Forte has a 21 day trial period.

richard smith

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 Re: older R13 clarinets
Author: vjoet 
Date:   2007-09-13 20:24

I LOVE my 1963 R13, and find it superior to any other instrument I've tried.

I have a new Greenline, and both my teacher and another clarinestist in community band have pronounced it very fine.

Last week I was playing on the 1963, assembled the Greenline, and put the mouthpiece on. The Greenline's sound was coarse compared to the sweetness of the 1963.

Also have a 1964 R13, but it doesn't compare to the 1963. I guess that one is one of artist quality, and absolutely love it.

So be sure you try the older instruments out before purchase.


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 Re: older R13 clarinets
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2007-09-13 21:34

I met a player who had (this was in the early 90's) bought a 1963 R-13 BRAND NEW from a seller who had stocked several of them and saved them for all those years.

What a find!


Post Edited (2007-09-13 21:34)

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 Re: older R13 clarinets
Author: Katrina 
Date:   2007-09-13 23:03

I always say never to throw ANYTHING away in case you may need it sometime....

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