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Author: lauren01040806
Date: 2007-08-08 05:09
My friend has a Buffet Crampon Clarinet. When I put the serial number in on www.buffet-crampon.com it came back and said this:
Brand : Buffet Crampon
Instrument : BC 1112
Serial number : 224628
Year of manufacturing : 29/03/1982
I was wondering if anyone knew what the BC 1112 is comparable too. Or if you could give me any other info about this particular model.
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Author: OpusII
Date: 2007-08-08 07:40
The BC 1112 is indeed the Buffet Crampon RC model. I've sold mine in the past, but I'm very sure about this number.
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Author: Cosmicjello
Date: 2007-08-15 05:12
I have a student's instrument that brings these results.
Brand : Buffet Crampon
Instrument : N� 1 Sib Am�rique
Serial number : 110018
Year of manufacturing : 20/10/1969
Can anyone translate this for me?
Thanks.
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2007-08-15 15:53
Mike,
I'm guessing that your student's clarinet has no model designation under the Buffet logo on the upper joint? I'm also guessing that your student has a pretty good horn. "N� 1 Sib Am�rique" appears to be the designation Buffet was using at the time for an R13 made for the "American" market, (whatever countries they included in their definition of that market). It should tune at A=440, and, as you probably recognize, is keyed in Bb and was made October 10, 1969.
I have an R13, serial number 104xxx, that returns the same description, except that it was made about a year earlier.
If the serial number on the clarinet has a prefix (K?) or the instrument is marked E13 under the logo, then it is the other clarinet listed for the serial number you entered.
Best regards,
jnk
Post Edited (2007-08-15 15:59)
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Author: Cosmicjello
Date: 2007-08-16 05:37
Thanks Jack!
I believed it was an R13 but was confused by the "N� 1 Sib Am�rique".
The clarinet was purchased 20 years ago by her father, from his high school clarinet teacher for a price of $500.
I haven't had the chance to play it yet as they're having it overhauled. They'll be excited to know.
Thanks again!
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2007-08-16 19:57
According to Francois Kloc, Buffet adopted the model designation "No1" or "N01" (he uses both forms in the same message) around 1950 when they began introducing clarinets with a polycylindrical bore. In 1955, when they had settled on a "final" design (more or less, they've been tweaking ever since) Buffet adopted the model name R13. From the serial number list, it appears that the factory continued the N�1 designation for their records. In other words, N�1 Sib (Bb) was the record-keeping code designation and R13 was the model name just as BC1131-2-0 is the code designation for a modern silver plated R13 Bb, pitched at (I'm inferring from the code but I could be wrong about this block) 440.
Just as the instrument has evolved over the years, so has the code, possibly changing when ownership changed hands and the new owners introduced their own codes, or when new characteristics had to be incorporated and, almost certainly, to facilitate computerized vs. manual record-keeping.
From what I see at the Buffet website, I think the current code structure for clarinets breaks down something like this: BCaabb(c)-d-e, where:
aa specifies the key - Bb(11), A(12), Eb(15), (F)17 (I can't find model numbers for a C or D clarinets on their site) [in the old code it was Sib, La and Mib, respectively for the first three keys I listed]
bb specifies the particular model, E13(02), RC(12), "Basset" (not really a model but that's how it's used)(23), R13(31), Prestige RC Bass to low Eb (83), Prestige RC Bass to low C(93), etc.
c is optional and specifies Greenline (G) or optional left-hand Eb lever (L), otherwise it is omitted
d specifies the key-plating (02 = silver, 05 = nickle)
e specifes pitch (0 = 440, 2 = 442, 4 = 444) [Note: I could be completely wrong about this one. The only examples I can find are "0" for R13s pitched at 440. On the Buffet site, anyway,this part of the code is not given for any of the models that have different or alternative pitches. Possibly the "0" is used only for models specifically pitched at 440 or possibly the "0" refers to something else, entirely.)
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: kuteclar
Date: 2007-10-19 21:51
Following the BCaabb(c)-d-e structure:
I believe bb 36 is for the C12 model clarinet.
So, BC 1136 is the Bb C12 clarinet
Thank you very much for this list, btw!
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