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Author: juan07
Date: 2007-08-11 00:10
im having trouble with my technical etude. which in the main part is is the stacattos and the tempo for which my fingers and tounging aren't agreeing making it sound really messy and not clear. I know this is a very practice is over it and over it again answer type thing. but is there like excersises for this ?
repetition of the material of some sort?
thanks for the help
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Author: SVClarinet09
Date: 2007-08-11 00:43
I had the same problems at all state this year too. Take a metronome and say the tempo you were going at before was 112, drop the metronome to about 60 and slowly work your way up in increments of 10. If you get to a point where say you played great at 90 but not at 100 go down 5 and so forth. Basically just mess around with the metronome and tempos. Don't go for speed rather go for cleanliness. Also another thing you can focus on is you making the smallest amount of finger motion possible and that you're tonguing correctly.
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2007-08-11 00:54
Know who is in charge of where the notes are: your fingers. Make your breath and tongue match what your fingers are doing, rather than the other way around (or, worse, everyone fending for themselves).
What really helps is, while paying attention to where on the clarinet the fingers are, doing the following:
Assuming you're playing 16th notes: Play the whole thing through, but just the downbeats. As you play each note, know where your fingers will go for the next one. Do this until you can play it just right. Now add the upbeats, so you're playing every other note. Still pay the most attention to where the downbeats are and where they're going. Finally, add the remaining notes, still paying the most attention to the downbeats and a bit of attention to the upbeats. Don't progress from one to the next until you can do it well, and slow down the tempo (gradually increasing) when necessary.
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: 2E
Date: 2007-08-11 12:32
Practise each tongued passage slurred slowly to get the fingers down first. This also gets your air moving which should be exactly the same as tonguing. All you have to do then is barely move the tip of the tongue a millimeter to stop the reed while playing it slurred. Do this slowly and speed it up eventually aiming for co-ordinating between the tongue and fingers. I find it helpful to push the tempo up incrementally each day you practise. Try this and see what results you get. best of luck! 2E
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Author: bstutsman
Date: 2007-08-12 05:37
General: use metronome with slow tempo. Pick a tempo that is slow enough to let you play correctly including articulation. You fingers and tongue need to learn the piece together. Eventhough slow tempo, still use fast fingers. That is, get to the next fingering quickly and evenly. If alternate fingerings are needed, start practicing them immediately. To mix it up a little bit, sometimes start your practice session from the last phrase of the piece and work backwards phrase by phrase. Don't worry about breathing spots until you get close to performance tempo.
Specific to piece: If key signatures are uncomfortable, work on appropriate scales. If piece is heavily arpeggiated, work on appropriate arpeggios. Consider whether arpeggios are based on major, minor, dominate sevenths, etc.
What is the etude? In Texas this year they are doing #37 from the Rose 40 and numbers 10 and 19 from the Rose 32. The edition used is Hite's. Music is clearly on the easy side this time.
Post Edited (2007-08-12 05:38)
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Author: pewd
Date: 2007-08-12 05:47
>Music is clearly on the easy side this time
its hard to judge when the music is too easy.
check out what the bass and contra players have to play (texas)
for the OP, most folks practice too fast. slow down.
in addition to what bstutsman said, studies in 3rds in the appropriate key. open up the klose book - about page 126-130 or thereabouts - i don't a copy in front of me - the studies in that section of the book in whatever key you need.
- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas
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Author: andyrox
Date: 2007-08-12 05:56
use dr beat. and start off really slow. get ur fingers to move at the speed of ur tongue. Then once your comfrtable move up the tempo a bit and so on. This will help your coordination.
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Author: juan07
Date: 2007-08-12 17:42
Technical Exercise: pg. 11 #10, meas. 1 thru 32.
32 Etudes for Clarinet, C. Rose, Pub: Carl Fischer Inc.
thats for FBA in florida.
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Author: bstutsman
Date: 2007-08-12 20:39
My son's private teacher picked the bass clarinet music for Texas this year. He said he really had to practice to demo it or the Texas Bandmasters Assoc. this summer. He told my son that bass clarinet players came to his house with torches and pitchforks. ![[grin]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie5.gif)
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Author: grifffinity
Date: 2007-08-12 21:32
Quote:
Technical Exercise: pg. 11 #10, meas. 1 thru 32.
32 Etudes for Clarinet, C. Rose, Pub: Carl Fischer Inc.
Those measures are a play on different patterns of articulations. Perhaps the trouble is getting off the the slur to make a stacatto? Try stopping the last notes slured with the tongue and a tad shorter than the full value. It creates a seperation for the staccato note and also prepares the articulation for the staccato note.
EDIT: Practice this technique slowly: set the metronome somewhere in the 50's - 60's to the 8th note beat, not quarter beat. It will sound ricidulous at a slow speed - the last slurred note with be noticably shorter than the slurred notes preceeding it. Just pay attention that the tongue stops the slurred note and you create the next note by releasing the tongue from the reed. Don't stop the air flow - only the reed vibration. As you speed it up, you will notice that the articulation sounds much cleaner.
Post Edited (2007-08-12 21:39)
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Author: Binna
Date: 2007-08-13 20:27
I agree with what everyone has said so far. My two cents is to pinpoint the exact point of problem... Admitting to having one is the first step... Then take that problem out of the music and make up your own exercise for it.
For Example:
You are having tongue finger coordination problems
Take out the first four or five notes (always go one more - to the downbeat or next beat etc)
slur them all (excruciatingly slow)
"Drop" articulation in
Repeat for all groupings
Often part of the problem with tongue finger coordination is that the passage is being played unevenly.
Take out the same note groupings and distort the rhythm, practice it that way then distort it again until you have gone through at least 5 different rhythm changes and then play as written.
(Varying articulation will also be beneficial)
Remember- our air is the most important part to playing- keep it going and stay expanded- articulation will become easier
Hope this helps. Have fun and keep practicing!
The metronome is our friend- it keeps us honest.
My band director once said "The metronome in your head is not the metronome of the world!"
Robin
Buffet Festival
Hawkins MP
Master of Arts- Applied Music Pedagogy NEIU
Bachelor of Arts- Music Education NAU
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Author: juan07
Date: 2007-08-14 13:49
Thanks to all .
I'be been trying all thesse sugestions throughout my practice
sessions and the've all helped a lot.
thanks .
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