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Author: Ron
Date: 2000-07-10 00:21
I have a Ridenour book on altissimo fingerings which is excellent. What is the most complete source of different fingerings from low e to super c? I want this knowledge for better tuning purposes.
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Author: Russell W.
Date: 2000-07-10 01:03
Hi. Alternate fingering are very important to the clarinetist and their proper use should be learned. The best source of alternate fingerings is in the H. Klose book by Simeon Bellison. This book has everything you will need! I love it! Hope this helps!!!
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Author: Dee
Date: 2000-07-10 01:19
Russell W. wrote:
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Hi. Alternate fingering are very important to the clarinetist and their proper use should be learned. The best source of alternate fingerings is in the H. Klose book by Simeon Bellison. This book has everything you will need! I love it! Hope this helps!!!
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While Klose's method book is great with a fine fingering chart, the two different books on fingerings by Ridenour and Sims are even more extensive as far as alternate fingerings go (note however that these two are not method books).
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Author: paul
Date: 2000-07-10 13:33
Ridenour's book has a lot of fingerings in it, no doubt. I found that as I perused through my copy of the Ridenour book, there were a couple of alternate fingerings for chalemeau, quite a few possible fingerings for throat Bb and other throat notes (high chalemeau G# through Bb), a few for clarion, and page after page of fingerings for the altissimo. While Ridenour makes mention of where the fingerings come in handy, his book doesn't give a measure or two excerpt of the music to try them out. If I were to guess as to why Ridenour only mentions the music but doesn't put the actual music in his book is that modern copyrights are tight.
It's been a while since I've looked at my copy of the Klose' book, since I use another method book for study. I have modern copies of the Langenous method books that were originally published just before and during WWI (when there were few copyright restrictions and musicians "borrowed" short works from each other frequently). Langenous I lists most of the more common fingerings and also gives a short excerpt (a measure or two) right on the fingering page so you can get an idea of how that particular fingering works in context with music. This is not a replacement for drill and practice, but at least you can see how to integrate the fingering into real music.
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Author: Mike Hancock
Date: 2000-07-10 15:04
Related to alternate fingerings.....particularly altissimo
I have observed differences in intonation among several of these on my own instrument.....some very good, others awful.
What happens between instruments? Can one expect significant variations in intonation? Are some instruments better than others?
Mike Hancock
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Author: paul
Date: 2000-07-10 16:10
I personally found differences between my Yamaha YCL-52 intermediate grade (and straight tone hole) clarinet and my pro grade Buffet Festival (undercut tone holes). The altissimo register fingerings from one horn didn't always match up on the other horn. That's life, especially in the altissimo. You are absolutely correct in searching for the fingerings that are stable with good intonation for your own horn and for your playing conditions. Not all horns are the same, and there are differences between student, intermediate, and pro grade horns, even within the same brand. There are differences between brands in the same grade, too. For the "big four" brands, the differences within grade between brands may or may not be significant. But I believe you are right in saying that certain horns prefer (play better with) some fingerings and other horns prefer other fingerings.
Make it a point to find the strongest and best fingerings and mark those in your favorite fingering chart. My Langenus Book 1 fingering chart has a bunch of mark-ups in it for my horn. That's the first book I reach for when I need to understand a fingering. I like how Ridenour made his book. He has a few pages of blank fingering grids so you can put down in writing in one place your favorite fingerings and your own notes where you believe those fingerings work best. I have a few fingerings in those orginally blank grids now that seem to work for me and my horn. As I gain expertise, I'll probably make up some more.
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Author: Mike Hancock
Date: 2000-07-10 20:37
Thanks, Paul.....you've provided a good piece of insight
to satisfy my curiosity.
Mike Hancock
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Author: Dee
Date: 2000-07-10 22:45
Mike Hancock wrote:
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Related to alternate fingerings.....particularly altissimo
I have observed differences in intonation among several of these on my own instrument.....some very good, others awful.
What happens between instruments? Can one expect significant variations in intonation? Are some instruments better than others?
Mike Hancock
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This is quite common and as you have noticed, the altissimo is indeed more sensitive. Every manufacturer chooses different compromises so if a horn is better on one note on the various alternates, it will probably be worse on other notes.
You just have to work with your instrument and see what is reasonable.
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Author: Kenny Chia
Date: 2000-07-21 04:11
I feel that it could be a waste of time searching for fingerings to the altissimo range as the note produced will depend on the player, the reed, the mouthpiece, instrument and a lot more factors. It is better to figure out the appropriate fingerings for yourself. I've tried to follow the "standard" fingering and some notes don't work for me.
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