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 spohr 1 high G's
Author: raddatcj 
Date:   2007-07-13 22:08

I am currently working on Spohr's first concerto in c minor. It requires quite a bit of techique, but only one section is really bugging me. In the first movement I can't seem to get a clean slur from the A's to the high G's in the 11th and 12th bar after the solo part comes in. I have been trying several alternate fingerings but still have limited success. There is a hesitation on the high G's tone which makes the whole passage uneven and slow. If anyone has any hints or ideas as to how to correct this please let me know.

Thanks!



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 Re: spohr 1 high G's
Author: raddatcj 
Date:   2007-07-16 09:48

I've spent the last 2 days working on these few measures and have definettly gotten better, but was wondering what is the key to sluring to third register? I have noticed that my throat has needed some training to hit notes in tunes. The third register definetly has its own feel to it. A long f or the regular f, are you sluring to it or do you want it articulated,... what is the dynamic? these are all questions I have been asking myself too much as or recently. I have worked the same passage with at least 4 different G's just to see which one is better. I feel as if the third register should really be a regular and standard part of my technique, but isn't.

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 Re: spohr 1 high G's
Author: DAVE 
Date:   2007-07-16 09:51

T+OK xox xox e flat key... That fingering works nicely for leaps...

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 Re: spohr 1 high G's
Author: raddatcj 
Date:   2007-07-16 10:00

Yes ,, I've been working with that and really think it's a great high g fingering..intonation is very good. It is not the easiest to get too.. but is full and resonant. The problem I have is is that it is just a little akward to get to from A at quarter note=108 or so. I like it...but am not convinced... but thanks for the advice.

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 Re: spohr 1 high G's
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2007-07-16 10:02

I'm working on that one too (not for a performance, but just working it up for fun) and am having the same problem. Never saw that fingering listed above. Hope it helps.

Alexi

US Army Japan Band

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 Re: spohr 1 high G's
Author: GBK 
Date:   2007-07-16 12:22

In this passage, the tendency is often to overthink the problem, trying every G fingering in the book to see if that is the perfect choice.

The problem in the Spohr is two-fold: where you are coming from (A5) and the note, after the G6, you are immediately going to (E6).

Thus, the idea is to find a high G fingering with as many COMMON fingers between the A5 and the E6.

There are a number of choices, but finding one where the middle finger of the LH can stay down for all three notes with a minimum of additional "finger flipping" brings you to......


plain old, everyday, "junior high school" G:

TR oxo / xxo Eb

For me that is the best fingering to use. However -


A second viable choice, depending on the tuning of your instrument would be:

TR oxx G#C# / xxo Eb

This choice is also good, because it has the advantage of having the E6 fingering "built into it", requiring little finger flipping.

Both fingerings above are only half of the solution. Practicing to get the G6 to sound full, in tune and matching the surrounding notes without "popping" is the other half of the equation.

...GBK

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 Re: spohr 1 high G's
Author: cigleris 
Date:   2007-07-17 11:53

Support, support, support. If you support well and have good relaxed fingers and a sound emboucher the Gs will look after themselves.

Peter Cigleris

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