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Author: Bill
Date: 2007-07-12 19:16
I've been to the Pyne-Clarion website and have not been able to discover any "discussion" of the different bore configurations. Can anyone give me a quick and dirty on the different styles? Can I get a cue card?
Around 1996 I telephoned Mr. Pyne and he made a mouthpiece just for me, a Jx. I think that was the "American" bore. I played it about 11 times and sold it. Too hard to find a reed for it, no high notes, etc.
Now that I'm an old man, I've decided to try one again. Fascinated by an old remark by Roger Garrett, that his students hated Pyne mouthpieces when they started studying with him but after a year or two loved them (this is available in the mailing list archives ... anyone remember Roger Garrett?!?!).
Assymmetrical rails ... boo hiss!!! We all know how bad they for you, like smoking, or Eggs Benedict. Yet the Maker's absolute confidence in them (I've been reading really old Klarinet postings, obviously) tempts one into his lair ... like going over to the dark side.
"Luke, I am your FATHER ...."
Bill.
Bill Fogle
Ellsworth, Maine
(formerly Washington, DC)
Post Edited (2007-07-12 19:25)
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Author: Ed
Date: 2007-07-12 22:02
I don't know if I have ever found any info on the Pyne bores. It may be a trade secret of sorts.
As to the assymetrical rails, that is a very personal thing. Some seem to like them. I played a mouthpiece for a time many years ago by a very well known maker that had a facing of this style. I found it extremely difficult to adjust reeds to it or to find reeds for it. The couple I could find were good, but few and far between. But, some love them have great results with them.
Tom Ridenour has a good article on his site about mouthpieces where he discusses this and other ideas
http://www.ridenourclarinetproducts.com/facings.htm
My experience has been that a very slight assymetry may work better than those that are extreme.
Good luck and let us know how it works out for you.
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Author: Allegremente
Date: 2007-07-13 01:06
Like many of us, I too am in the dark about the Pyne barrel styles, though I do have an older Pyne Clarion barrel, looks to be black hard rubber, almost perfectly cylindrical, with two rings cut into the bottom of it. It was given to me by my teacher, who plays on Clarion barrels and probably knows quite a bit about them. I'll see if I can get him in this thread.
I can't tell you anything about the manufacture, style, or whatnot, but my opinion-based qualitative summary is that my model is
A: It plays quite brightly (too brightly for me), with tremendous projection and center, especially in my throat tones.
B:I would imagine the taper to be very slight if at all.
C: It plays about 5-10 cents flat on my Selmer Signature/Redwine Gennusa setup, which is why I don't use it in band playing anymore.
I'd recommend at least trying a few out if your setup is feeling a bit stuffy, but I wouldn't suppose that they'd be a good choice if you've got a free-blowing thing going. It can't hurt to experiment. =]
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