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Author: Old Geezer
Date: 2007-02-02 17:13
Whatever happened to the Leblanc-Bakun Legacy?
Has anyone on the BB purchsed one and been playing it for a few weeks or more?
If so, tell us about it, let us know what you think of it now that you've sprung for all those thousands....
I'm hoping to hear good things, but don't hold back...we're all friends here!
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2007-02-02 18:51
It's out. I noticed Kessler's has one and there are a few other places that have it. I don't plan on spending the dough right now because I'm planning to have Morrie work on my Symphonie VII and equip it with new bell, barrel, etc. So, no got the dough. And, the Legacy is quite a bit of dough. I've only heard good things about it. I know Ricardo Morales has one (along with a Symphonie), Julian Bliss has one (or two) and Eddie Daniels got one the other day. So, they're getting out there. Would love to hear from ordinary folks who have them--or not ordinary folks. Eddie and Ricardo and Julian can chime in any time they want. I think Julian made a post about it. Perhaps doing a search would bring that back up.
Morrie tells me he's working on an all Cocobolo clarinet. I may save up for that. Since I'm saving anyway.
Post Edited (2007-02-02 18:54)
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Author: bill28099
Date: 2007-02-02 23:12
I got to touch one yesterday while Morrie reamed the cocobolo barrel to my Cadenza. It was going out to someone as soon as the set up was complete and was impressive but not as impressive as the new 1+ million dollar NC machine in the back room that drills holes in clarinet bodies. Now that was cool.
A great teacher gives you answers to questions
you don't even know you should ask.
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Author: DaveKessler
Date: 2007-06-25 21:01
They finally have added the Aux D# lever to the Legacy now. I just got my first one today with the lever installed. They did good not to split the key mechanism as well.
Dave Kessler
Kessler & Sons Music
http://www.kesslermusic.com
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2007-06-26 13:35
musiciandave, it may be wild looking, but how does it sound? Is this just cosmetic?
Also, have you checked out the intonation up and down the scale on your student's clarinet? I liked the way the Cadenza sounded and felt in the hand, but it was very inconsistent in tuning.
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Author: DaveKessler
Date: 2007-06-26 16:01
The Cadenza actually is designed for a high school player & hobbiest's intonation. I cant tell you exactly what they have done but according to what I was told by Morrie, the bore of the Cadenza is meant for this type of player and is designed to help them play better in tune.
The Symphonie and Legacy models are designed for how a professional player plays.
So yes, you personally would find the Cadenza a bit out of tune on certain notes whereas a high schooler on the same instrument will play much easier in tune on the same clarinet.
Dave Kessler
Kessler & Sons Music
http://www.kesslermusic.com
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Author: donald
Date: 2007-06-26 19:50
interesting concept? about as interesting as giving them shorter barrels so they can play at 440 without learning correct tone production. I'm sure it makes someone happy.
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2007-06-26 20:00
I'm still interested in knowing how it compares to the tuning of a standard R-13. The R-13s have unique tuning difficulties as well.
And, donald, I'm assuming it makes the band directors happy.
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Author: J. J.
Date: 2007-06-26 20:04
That is not an interesting concept, if true, but a bizarre one. It's akin to providing them with tools that will prevent them from being forced to learn how to play properly. It can only serve to make life harder for them in the long run.
I really hope you misunderstood.
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Author: Bubalooy
Date: 2007-06-26 20:31
if you have a piano at home, it is good to keep it out of tune so you're familiar with what you'll have to play with out on a gig.
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Author: DaveKessler
Date: 2007-06-26 21:49
"That is not an interesting concept, if true, but a bizarre one. It's akin to providing them with tools that will prevent them from being forced to learn how to play properly."
Then is it acceptable that Buffet includes a 64.5mm barrel standard on the E11 for the very same reason?
I do in theory agree with you. Giving kids shorter barrels and tuning a clarinet to their faults does not help them improve on those issues... the Leblanc Rapsodie is a great clarinet but with its 66mm barrel, most students cannot play it up to pitch, so they dont buy it.
Manufacturer's are forced to compete. So if they can get a playing advantage for their target market, they are going to use it.
The other trend of thought though is that when the clarinet is easier to play in tune for the player, it allows them focus on improving their playing in other aspects.
Dave Kessler
Kessler & Sons Music
http://www.kesslermusic.com
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2007-06-27 01:19
Dave, you've hit upon my theory about kids and playing the clarinet when you say, "The other trend of thought though is that when the clarinet is easier to play in tune for the player, it allows them focus on improving their playing in other aspects."
I have recommended Leblanc clarinets for years for that very reason. The Esprit used to be one of my favorites for kids (intermediate players) because it was so much more readily in tune up and down the scale than the Buffet R-13 and could be purchased (usually) for a lower price tag.
My philosophy has been that they could focus on technical fingering skills and learning to read music and theory rather than fighting an instrument they couldn't play in tune. However, I also agree that if they are a serious student and have moved into the senior level in high school and want to play in college, it's time they really learn intonation and train their ears. And, actually, if they could train their ears earlier than high school it would be ideal.
So, it's a bit of a toss up as to technique in training.
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