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Author: C2thew
Date: 2007-06-22 16:24
I've been looking at oboes for a while and have noticed that there are protective endcaps that are put on over the tenon joint corks for storage when it hit me, why aren't other manufacturers doing this? The benefits of having these endcaps would be the prevention of wood staining from wet corks after having played. over time, the brown in the tenon corks + the saliva seap into the case covering and help generate stainings and possibly smells.
So what's the dillio. why aren't manufacturers including protective endcaps for the joint corks? ok go!
Our inventions are wont to be pretty toys, which distract our attention from serious things. they are but improved means to an unimproved end, an end which was already but too easy to arrive as railroads lead to Boston to New York
-Walden; Henry Thoreau
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2007-06-22 17:03
Rossis are supplied with tenon covers to hold them snugly in the case end blocks.
An oboe bottom joint tenon cover will fit a clarinet mouthpiece tenon (with a bit of opening up) and a cor anglais bottom joint tenon cover (again with a bit of fitting) will fit the bottom joint tenon on a clarinet. As for the top joint tenons, I've never found anything satisfactory that can be adapted, thoug that's not to say there's nothing that will fit or can be adapted.
The tenon covers also keep the case lining clean (as well as prevent too much shifting around in transport) - though it'll still get grubby where the sockets go with the cork grease.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: L. Omar Henderson
Date: 2007-06-22 18:05
At the local hardware store the cast iron prethreaded pipe has an orange or red pastic cover to protect the threading during shipment and handling. The 3/4 inch and 1 inch caps neatly fit on the tenon ends of the clarinet. I put them in my Marcus Bonna case because the holding system for the clarinet entails putting the tenon ends into a hole in a neoprene block and I thought that eventually the hole would get gross with cork grease - works fine for me.
L. Omar Henderson
www.doctorsprod.com
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Author: Brenda ★2017
Date: 2007-06-22 18:53
Great suggestion, Omar! Probably a lot less expensive, too. My Rossi that was just delivered indeed comes with tenon caps. Not ever having seen them before it was a little baffling at first, but now after playing and swabbing those tenon caps go back on. The case that comes with the Rossi is made to fit the one-piece clarinet exactly if you use the caps on the ends. No cork grease will end up in this case.
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Author: clarinetwife
Date: 2007-06-22 19:06
I am curious, what effect using a tenon cap or not has on the texture and longevity of the cork itself. Does cork like to be left to the air a little more, or is a cap actually good for it? Doctor Omar or anybody else who might have looked into this?
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2007-06-22 19:22
Tenon covers aren't meant to be a tight fit on the cork (ie. as tight a fit as a socket is) - they should be a slightly loose fit (only just held on lightly by the widest diameter of the cork, almost falling off) and should not compress the cork at all.
If thet are a tight fit (fitted to the tenon rather than to the larger diameter of the cork as a socket is) then you'll have trouble getting them off once they're put on. And if they compress the cork as much as the sockets do, then this'll be just as bad as leaving the clarinet in one piece and you'll have loose joints.
So any tenon cover should be a relatively loose fit with no compression or influence on the cork at all.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2007-06-22 20:36
There are end caps for tube-legged furniture like these. They come in 1mm granularity.
I use one of these as an ignition lock cap for my motorbike...
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Ben
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Author: C2thew
Date: 2007-06-23 02:08
49.99 for tenon endcaps?!?! what are they? custom tapered to cater to specific dimensions of cork manufactured by buffet?
seriously...
Our inventions are wont to be pretty toys, which distract our attention from serious things. they are but improved means to an unimproved end, an end which was already but too easy to arrive as railroads lead to Boston to New York
-Walden; Henry Thoreau
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2007-06-23 11:12
Good ideas here! I've been going the bub-fudge extra-cheapo route of putting a scrap of paper towel around the cork. Hardware stores also sell a variety of plastic pipes and tubes for various purposes--probably could saw those to length and sand the ends smooth. If I go to the trouble, I'll want tenon caps open at *both* ends, so that air can still get into the bore and dry out moisture that can remain after swabbing.
Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
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Author: BobD
Date: 2007-06-23 11:27
But Doc, what do you do with all the pipe fittings? I' m currently trying something a bit different.
I previously wrapped each clarinet section in "Saranwrap" but now have found an improved product.."Glad Press'n Seal". I put one layer down, put the sections on top and then a layer of thin bubblewrap on top.....then seal the edges. Oh, the pill bottle hydrolizer goes in with the sections. Result: No cork grease on the velvet and humidity control too....and no sections to unwrap.
Bob Draznik
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Author: susieray
Date: 2007-06-23 13:43
Whatever works for you guys; but personally it sounds like too much fussing. I don't see the problem with cork grease staining but maybe it's just me? I hardly ever even NEED to use cork grease, maybe only once a week if that...and since I always wipe the tenons off with a paper towel after I play I never have any issues with cork grease stains. Gosh, I've never used any kind of humidity control either.
Sue
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2007-06-23 20:17
> I'll want tenon caps open at *both* ends, so that air can still get into the
> bore and dry out moisture that can remain after swabbing.
I thought about that too, but then it dawned on my that we have tone holes for that...
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Ben
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Author: CPW
Date: 2007-06-23 20:41
Large detonation caps fit comfortably on the tenons, and the entire instrument can be converted for use as a sniper rifle.
For my gazelle leather case, I prefer to suspend the clarinets in a fusion chamber containment field (available at Home Despot). This keeps the corks from touching the velvet material. No stains. Not now, not ever.
Against the windmills of my mind
The jousting pole splinters
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Author: C2thew
Date: 2007-06-23 20:44
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5818891-description.html
link to the "fusion chamber containment field "
Our inventions are wont to be pretty toys, which distract our attention from serious things. they are but improved means to an unimproved end, an end which was already but too easy to arrive as railroads lead to Boston to New York
-Walden; Henry Thoreau
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Author: CPW
Date: 2007-06-23 23:59
Yes C2few, that is the one.
It is in the HAVOC department of Home Despot between the duct work center and the humidifier nozzles.
Against the windmills of my mind
The jousting pole splinters
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Author: C2thew
Date: 2007-06-24 06:45
=) good stuff
Our inventions are wont to be pretty toys, which distract our attention from serious things. they are but improved means to an unimproved end, an end which was already but too easy to arrive as railroads lead to Boston to New York
-Walden; Henry Thoreau
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