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Author: kuteclar
Date: 2007-06-01 17:18
Although I'm alwys on the lookout for great clarinets, mouthpieces and barrels and etc. for myself, this post is about my cousin.
She is going into 11th grade and is in dire need of an upgrade! She recently has made a jump in her ability, but she will probably not study clarinet past high school; she might join a college band, but I'm doubting that this will something she goes into professionally. Her current instrument is the typical plastic that she's had since 5th grade. I don't know why she never upgraded, but she hasn't taken lessons until this year.
So, her teacher is my former teacher, and he told her to go buy an R13. He is definitely a Buffet teacher, so I would like to keep her on Buffet. I had a very nice Yamaha during my intermediate years, but I believe there is Buffet available in every price range. If you would like to highly recommend a LeBlanc or Selmer or Yamaha or Ridenour etc, I might go try them, if possible.
So she could go buy a new R13 like he said. I find lots wrong with this. Our local music store mostly sells Greenline (I also think that's odd). I did find some local stores that had multiple R13s in stock, so we could go compare. Otherwise I told her to do a trial through one of the big sites.
I am worried about a new instrument cracking. Also, why pay full new price when so many great used instruments are out there? And understandably, they are worried about just buying one off E*** in case it doesn't play as well as 'new.'
Getting down to my main question, besides a used R13, I was thinking more in the range of International, C12, E13, Evette (& Schaeffer) Master Models. I think this would be sufficient??
Although.....and my last point....IF she gets a nice R13 and keeps it crack free, I could always buy it from her
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Author: LarryBocaner ★2017
Date: 2007-06-01 18:17
Sounds like she's a good candidate for a Buffet E11 -- I find it to be of near-professional quality, and even better with the substitution of an R13 barrel (or equivalent) of 66mm length. I have former students who have gone on to college with their E11's (not clarinet majors) and been quite competitive with kids with "pro" horns.
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Author: bmcgar ★2017
Date: 2007-06-01 18:38
Well, if she's not status conscious and won't die of embarrassment if she's not playing a wood clarinet with a "correct" logo on it, get her a Ridenour horn.
I've owned two (A and C) and recommend them to my advanced students who don't intend to major in performance in college. (Just because of the pressure to play wood.)
See Sherman Friedland's posts on the board for more about these instruments.
Also, if you find a good Master Model, she'll have a horn that is every bit as good as most R13s. I've played or owned about ten of them, and I've encouraged students who can't afford new or "pro" horns to buy them.
They're really cheap used, too, thanks to the unwillingness of most people to accept anything other than brand names and famous models.
B.
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Author: C2thew
Date: 2007-06-01 20:16
Ditto on the rideneour lyrique horn. Sherman's recommendations are quite good. I wouldn't suggest buying an e11. that horn will hamper the player from pursuing the clarinet. jump to a pro and keep working up.
Our inventions are wont to be pretty toys, which distract our attention from serious things. they are but improved means to an unimproved end, an end which was already but too easy to arrive as railroads lead to Boston to New York
-Walden; Henry Thoreau
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2007-06-01 20:25
Not for nothing, but I always watch this own board's classifieds and I've seen SEVERAL clarinets that seem to be a great deal for the $$$$. And lots of top-name clarinets for the price of a new C12, E13, etc.
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: rtmyth
Date: 2007-06-01 21:59
Ridenour TR147s were made to his specs, set-up and adjusted by him, but marketed by Brook Mays. Very similar to his Ariosos and Lyriques, I would say, and thus great buys. Generally all makes and models vary greatly, so you may need to try 20 or so to get an artist quality, but I have found Ridenours which he has set-up, to be uniformly good.
richard smith
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Author: D
Date: 2007-06-02 19:23
Is there actually anything wrong with her current instrument that a really good services wouldn't fix?
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2007-06-03 00:53
Another non-8uffet horn to consider is the new Leblanc Cadenza. I got one of these this past year, and it has been quite a decent instrument. The wood is excellent, and the keywork is great. It has a very pleasing tone, and the keys are quite silent, the way a good instrument should be. Additionally, you can get one (with two barrels) for well below the price of an R13.
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