 The Clarinet BBoard
|
Author: Bill
Date: 2007-05-27 12:17
I've been able to pick up a few descriptions of the old Woodwind Company ("Steel Ebonite") facings here, but I wanted to ask whether anyone had a fuller list or a complete chart for these oldies? All the K's and B's and G's, etc.
Would love to see it.
Bill.
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: Bill
Date: 2007-05-28 01:34
Thanks Dan - these charts are interesting.
I had read a few excerpts from some source. In them, the various letter designations for these old Woodwind mouthpieces were described as, for example, "perfect for dance band" or "ideal for the orchestral player."
Fun reading!
Bill.
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: stevesklar
Date: 2007-05-28 03:41
I have an old Woodwind brochure which states the verbage information. I happen to be checking tips and curves of a bunch of vintage woodwind pieces .. was just taking a break from it !! .. primarily to analyze the "Symphonic" vs "Free-blowing/dance band" curves.
I'll be reviewing those above links too to develop any correlation. I don't think the modern Leblanc Woodwind mpcs are anywhere similar to the old ones.
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: stevesklar
Date: 2007-05-28 09:31
of the 6 ww mpcs I have .....
the throat has various differences too. The K has more straight sidewalls which center the tone. The G has more of an A frame, though not so much as many that I've seen, just a slight enlargement, which gives it more of a spread tone.
The Original educator series seems to be in between the G and K for the throat shape.
here's a link to a copy of an old advertisement from a Selmer mag
http://www.saxmaniax.com/galleryclar/woodwindcompanympcs.jpg
I also have a variety of these for saxophone (soprano, alto & tenor), though the throat designs are nothing like on clarinet except for the melliphone which uses an A throat design.
edited - made the link functional
==========
Stephen Sklar
My YouTube Channel of Clarinet Information
Post Edited (2007-05-28 15:06)
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: Bill
Date: 2007-05-28 12:47
Thank you!!!! I think the Selmer brochure is probably what I was thinking of. Thanks Steve!!!
I have several of the usual items, but also one marked '36 (with the preceding apostrophe). It has the patent numbers as well. The facing designation on the table has been olbliterated.
I love them because they are great with my old clarinets. It's to the point that whenever I am having a pitch problem, I use one of the Woodwinds and that usually resolves it.
Bill.
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: stevesklar
Date: 2007-05-28 15:08
It should have stamped on it somewhere "steele ebonite" "The Woodwind Co new York"
It may be a K9 as the Ks where stamped '36 at some point .. not sure if that meant 1936 ??
My K9 works great with medium to large bore clarinets. intonation on small bores is off with it.
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: Vytas
Date: 2007-05-28 15:33
>"The facing designation on the table has been olbliterated"....<
Markings: "K6" on the table, Steel Ebonite, Reg. US Pat. Office, "36" on the body, The Woodwind Co., New York on the back and Patent Process No 1452953 on the right side. Excellent big bore mouthpiece from 1930s.
Vytas Krass
Custom clarinet mouthpiece maker
Professional clarinet technician
Former professional clarinet player
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: Don Berger
Date: 2007-05-28 16:57
I have a couple of G8's, according to the mp comparison charts, its about as average as one can get. Glad you spotted the patent #, Vytas, I looked it up on Google/Patents, where it can be copied more easily than on USPTO. It's US 1,452,953 to E Bercioux, NYC, 1923, Machine For facing Mouthpieces, a bit complicated. Will take a look for WW's patents, if anyone is interested. Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: Bill
Date: 2007-05-28 18:17
Thanks Vytas! I suspect the reason I like these is that I had such low expectations for them. With time and use, I've found them to have good tuning with my vintage instruments and to tolerate fairly firm reeds.
Not bad - could do worse.
Bill.
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
The Clarinet Pages
|
 |
.jpg){kind=small}
.jpg){kind=small}
.jpg){kind=small}
.jpg){kind=small}
.jpg){kind=small}
.jpg){kind=small}
