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 HEELLLPP!!!! what am i doing wrong?? someone??
Author: pelo_ensortijado 
Date:   2007-05-05 18:39

hello.
im not to good with the english language so i can't find what im looking for on the searchengine. that's why i write here.

i have trouble with most of my tones. or not really the tones, but when going between one to another. it sounds sort of like when taking the middle B. it kind of make a "clunchy" noice. you know?? but on all the tones...

HOW TO MAKE IT GO AWAY!!!

i hear that Reginald Kell has it on some of hes recordings. and Martin Fröst to, on the "The Pied Piper of the Opera" cd. others i dont know. hasn't listen that much. but i dont think that alot of clarinetist has it.
and i certainly dont want it there. i want just a smooth change of tone!!

i have made an recording. its swedish experimental traditional music and i have made it in the computer. everything but the clarinet. this maybe help to explain what the problem is!!

http://www.myspace.com/niclasgustafsson

it's the top song "midnattspolska". i also play some on the second one("om jag vore du"), but that is mainly just song and computers.

please help me!! i really don't know what to do! cant get it away by listen to others and mimic. it's still there...



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 Re: HEELLLPP!!!! what am i doing wrong?? someone??
Author: Bill 
Date:   2007-05-05 20:01

OMG! I love the music. The clarinet playing is enjoyable ... very nice. You know, I've read this message twice, and sadly I can't figure out what you mean. There was the slightest amount of what I would call "grunting" on some of the tones, but I felt it was contributory to the style of the music itself, with a wonderful and occasional use of jaw sag (these are all my own, foolish terms) that made the playing so jazzy and even confident.

Gosh. If what you lack is smoothness of transition from one note to the next ... well ... then I am lost! I felt your attack was quite fine.

Bill.

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 Re: HEELLLPP!!!! what am i doing wrong?? someone??
Author: Iceland clarinet 
Date:   2007-05-05 20:30

I found the recording to be very nice but I don't have a clue what you are talking about. At least for me Reginald Kell is one of greatest clarinetist EVER.

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 Re: HEELLLPP!!!! what am i doing wrong?? someone??
Author: pelo_ensortijado 
Date:   2007-05-05 20:38

well. what i'm trying to explain is that there is a certain sound when using some of the tones. and sometimes its there and sometimes its not. and i want to make it to be gone allways! is there anyone who here what i mean? and what i am doing so that is sounds and and how i shall do to get it away???
its really enoying!!

and Reginald Kell is a very good player!! i have a lot of his solo concertos!! very excellent. but he does it all the time.
martin fröst does it sometimes, but very rearly. so i think it has to do with the way of playing or the airstream or something. but i cant put my finger on it!!!!!



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 Re: HEELLLPP!!!! what am i doing wrong?? someone??
Author: MichaelR 
Date:   2007-05-05 23:00

Can you post a short piece on your myspace page going back and forth between two notes where you notice the problem the most?

Isolating it will help people here understand what you are trying to describe.

--
Michael of Portland, OR
Be Appropriate and Follow Your Curiosity

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 Re: HEELLLPP!!!! what am i doing wrong?? someone??
Author: FDF 
Date:   2007-05-05 23:10

"and Reginald Kell is a very good player!! i have a lot of his solo concertos!! very excellent. but he does it all the time.
martin fröst does it sometimes, but very rearly. so i think it has to do with the way of playing or the airstream or something. but i cant put my finger on it!!!!!"

Well, here's one possibility. Maybe that's the way a clarinet sounds! Since great clarinet players do it, and a board of excellent clarinet players can't detect the problem, it is a reasonable conclusion that the clarinet is supposed to sound "clunchy." After all, it's not computerized, it's humanized.



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 Re: HEELLLPP!!!! what am i doing wrong?? someone??
Author: RodRubber 
Date:   2007-05-05 23:17

maybe try pressing your fingers down instead of slamming them down. I hear a popping noise on right hand notes moving from higher notes, like e to d (which, if im correct in what i think you are asking about, is the only interval this occurs).

I think he is referring to that characteristic clarinet popping sound. I hear that all the time from top dogs, but i too prefer to eliminate that from my playing. My teacher was also seriously anti-popping sound on right hand notes.



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 Re: HEELLLPP!!!! what am i doing wrong?? someone??
Author: pelo_ensortijado 
Date:   2007-05-06 08:40

thank you!! ;) finaly someone with the right vocabulary to say what it is im talking about!! popping! :D
not slamming my fingers sounds like the right way to do it. because its not there when playing slowly!!

i guess i was wrong before. i COULD put my finger on it. lol.

tnx alot!!



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 Re: HEELLLPP!!!! what am i doing wrong?? someone??
Author: Gordon (NZ) 
Date:   2007-05-06 12:27

I loved it.
What is the time signature?

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 Re: HEELLLPP!!!! what am i doing wrong?? someone??
Author: pelo_ensortijado 
Date:   2007-05-06 13:05

3/4
glad you liked it. :)

btw anyone knows a good way of practicing NOT to slam my fingers??



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 Re: HEELLLPP!!!! what am i doing wrong?? someone??
Author: Katrina 
Date:   2007-05-06 13:58

In order to have your fingers smooth, you must practice transitions between notes. Take any two notes and move your fingers at an even speed. Begin with your fingers very far from the holes (YES!!) because this helps you to learn not to change speed as you move them toward the clarinet. Practice each interval slurring in both directions, back and forth. You can also think about "squeezing" your fingers toward the clarinet.

This is what I was trained to do for serious legato work.



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 Re: HEELLLPP!!!! what am i doing wrong?? someone??
Author: seafaris 
Date:   2007-05-06 14:13

When you record your clarinet depending on the location of the mics you will hear the key action a lot more. If it is to loud for your tastes practicing will help just like anyting else. I thought your playing was just great, the bass and drums really drove that beat. I think you also had a keyboard in there, and to my tastes it was very distracting to the recording. again great sound you have.


....Jim

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