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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2007-04-11 15:28
Attachment: tridentlogo.jpg (9k)
Anyone in here who has ever seen this logo? It pops up every so often, on clarinets, on brass instruments, and all we know is that it's of European origin.
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Ben
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Author: EuGeneSee
Date: 2007-04-11 16:05
I've been wondering about that logo, too, as I have a rotary valve (with piston valve-type plungers) pocket trumpet with that same logo. One possible indication of the manufacturer is that it uses the same black plastic bumper stops on the rotary valves that is found on most Blessing rotary valve horns. Eu
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2007-04-11 16:08
That's stamped on a lot of Russian-made instruments.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: EuGeneSee
Date: 2007-04-11 17:03
The thing about those rotary valves is that they have plunger type keys with the pearl topped caps just like a piston-valve trumpet. The player's hand hides the valves so you would not see that it isn't a piston-valve instrument.
Among the numbers on the trumpet, just below the trident/candelabra logo are various numbers along with a letter like a small u and another like a Greek gamma, both also common to the Cyrillic alphabet, another possible indication of a Russian origin. Eu
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Author: BassetHorn
Date: 2007-04-11 17:13
I know the company Trident in Germany or Switzerland that makes professional level knives...
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2007-04-11 17:33
On the famous auction site whose name I shall not even hint at (usually in Germany) I've seen oboes built to the old German style (non-conservatoire keywork, fully automatic 8ves and descending only to low B) with these markings on them, as well as simple German system clarinets - all in Bakelite with no metal socket rings, the keys are nickel plated and could even be die cast in mazak.
So I suppose since reunification and the collapse of Communism in East Europe, these instruments have migrated.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2007-04-11 17:38)
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Author: SVClarinet09
Date: 2007-04-11 21:20
Im pretty sure its St Petersburg. We have those tubas at school ill double check and make sure.
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Author: rsholmes
Date: 2007-04-13 17:15
A clarinet with this mark was recently offered on TFAS, item number 280100852255. No information on its origin though.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2007-04-13 18:36
That one looks a lot like an older Amati.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2007-04-13 18:44
> That one looks a lot like an older Amati.
No it doesn't - the socket rings are completely different. But maybe Amati supplied the keywork...?
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Ben
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2007-04-13 18:50
I meant to say the keywork looks liek that of an older Amati - must be the morphine and midazolam still in my system, or just the fact I can't type too well with a wonky arm!
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2007-04-13 18:54
Maybe we're looking at what once was communist-era stencilling business...?
I have an elderly Amati with similar UJ keywork (but quite different RH pinky keys)
What did you do with your arm?
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Ben
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2007-04-13 18:55
I dislocated it (left arm) at the shoulder this morning while skiing!
Ice and skis just don't mix.
I've been looking for Russian oboes built to the old German models on you-know-where, but haven't seen any.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2007-04-13 18:57)
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2007-04-13 19:04
> I dislocated it (left arm) at the shoulder this morning while skiing!
Ouch! And superglue won't help here!
> Ice and skis just don't mix.
They do if you care to sharpen your skis' edges. But spring is a dangerous season to ski, I agree.
Anyhow, get well soon!
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Ben
Post Edited (2007-04-13 19:04)
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