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 Aluminum Foil Technique by Ben Armato?
Author: grifffinity 
Date:   2007-04-03 04:18

http://www.clarinetstudio.com/artists/armato.htm

I came across the above link. Before I posted I searched the BBoard, but found no such mention. I've known several of Ben Armato's students and none of them have every used this...or even mentioned the method.

I will try it out tomorrow for kicks.

Anyone here have experience or heard of this before?



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 Re: Aluminum Foil Technique by Ben Armato?
Author: Koo Young Chung 
Date:   2007-04-03 04:31

If this makes your playing better,that means your mouthpiece(tip opening) is not the best one for you.



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 Re: Aluminum Foil Technique by Ben Armato?
Author: skygardener 
Date:   2007-04-03 04:58

there is a product from Europe of the same fashon. It comes in a set of 10 (or so) strips that each have a different contour and sound. It definately works (ie. changes the sound), no hype. It's fun and could be very useful for people that need to change their sound quickly for different performances.

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 Re: Aluminum Foil Technique by Ben Armato?
Author: hartt 
Date:   2007-04-03 05:18

yes, I've tried it.

for better or for worse ......sound that is........no perceivable difference.

the concept is to get the reed to vibrate more.............that can easily be accomplished by loosening the top ligature screw or slightly lowering the ligature on the mp.

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 Re: Aluminum Foil Technique by Ben Armato?
Author: skygardener 
Date:   2007-04-03 06:01

hartt- it works a bit differently than just moving the ligature for many mechanical reasons. although, moving the lig also has different effects on the reed.

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 Re: Aluminum Foil Technique by Ben Armato?
Author: Sylvain 
Date:   2007-04-03 13:06

Here is a little bit of a step up from the aluminum
http://www.claripatch.com/
I believe it is th esame principle, but a little more advanced and about 1000X more expensive :)

-S

--
Sylvain Bouix <sbouix@gmail.com>

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 Re: Aluminum Foil Technique by Ben Armato?
Author: EuGeneSee 
Date:   2007-04-03 13:30

I often see a Claripatch ad in the sponsors' "billboard" space at the top of my screen when I am on the BB. I guess they still are listed as a sponsor. Eu

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 Re: Aluminum Foil Technique by Ben Armato?
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2007-04-03 13:53

For some obscure reason, I always think of this when I read the subject title...I must be a nerd (and yes, I own an Alto).

--
Ben

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 Re: Aluminum Foil Technique by Ben Armato?
Author: Mags1957 
Date:   2007-04-03 14:52

I have the Claripatch - bought it just for fun a few months ago. It does work, but I never use it - getting my reeds to work is easier and less hassle with the ATG system. But if you play through the different "foils", there is definately a difference in how they feel and sound, so maybe Ben was on to something!

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 Re: Aluminum Foil Technique by Ben Armato?
Author: Old Geezer 
Date:   2007-04-03 17:16

Who was first with the idea Ben or Claripatch?

In his book Ben also recounts a method of making a mouthpiece "forgiving" by scoring the rails about 1/16" deep, using a fine file!

Try these notches on one of those $500 mouthpieces....

Clarinet Redux

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 Re: Aluminum Foil Technique by Ben Armato?
Author: Alseg 
Date:   2007-04-03 17:18

Ah, but what happens when you use GOLD foil??

cAUtion (sic) : no responder to the above question is permitted to use the words "dark" or "warm." AGreed? (sic)


Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-





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 Re: Aluminum Foil Technique by Ben Armato?
Author: Ed 
Date:   2007-04-03 19:11

Ah, but what happens when you use GOLD foil??


I am sure that the sound is richer and more colorful :-)

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 Re: Aluminum Foil Technique by Ben Armato?
Author: David Spiegelthal 2017
Date:   2007-04-03 19:28

And I thought a "claripatch" was a small square of material impregnated with time-release clarineticide, which a person could wear on his/her arm to overcome an addiction to clarinets.......

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 Re: Aluminum Foil Technique by Ben Armato?
Author: Alseg 
Date:   2007-04-03 19:48

David, you wear the claripatch when you can not play...Like a those who wear a nicotine patch when smoking is prohibited.

I believe it is impregnated with blackwood dust and arundo donax powder suspended in DMSO nanosphere matrices.



(My apologies to the real claripatch people, this is just a spoof thread, and in no way is meant to detract from the product. Besides, my lawyer made me insert this disclaimer, and we all know what Shakespeare said about attorneys).


Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-





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 Re: Aluminum Foil Technique by Ben Armato?
Author: EuGeneSee 
Date:   2007-04-03 19:52

By " . . . when you cannot play . . . " if you mean one as lousy at it as I am, then brother, send me 2 cases of those patches. Don't let David hog 'em all!! Eu

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 Re: Aluminum Foil Technique by Ben Armato?
Author: Alseg 
Date:   2007-04-03 20:06

Hey, now that is an idea
We can make brassipatches and fiddlepatches too.


Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-





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 Re: Aluminum Foil Technique by Ben Armato?
Author: pzaur 
Date:   2007-04-03 23:18

"Ah, but what happens when you use GOLD foil??


I am sure that the sound is richer and more colorful :-)"


Naaahhh - you get to record yourself and then charge a premium for the recording since you have a 24 karat gold plated tone that never dulls!

-pat

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 Re: Aluminum Foil Technique by Ben Armato?
Author: Sylvain 
Date:   2007-04-04 00:04

OK, so I just tried and results are... inconclusive.
My observations:
1- I did not bother recording myself as I don't think anyone can hear a difference especially when recorded with $60 microphone.
2- The amount of window covered by the foil makes a big difference, one needs to experiment.
3- It seems to help for a reed that is past its prime or a little soft.
4- It seems to be not helping with a stiff reed even hindering playing altissimo.
5- It was a fun way to spend 30mn on the clarinet not really practicing. I recommend we all waste a little bit of time and exchange notes :)

--
Sylvain Bouix <sbouix@gmail.com>

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 Re: Aluminum Foil Technique by Ben Armato?
Author: Mags1957 
Date:   2007-04-04 15:09

I forgot to mention one thing about the claripatch (and perhaps the aluminum foil as well): It works very well with Legere reeds. So, if you're one of those who like Legere reeds, but doesn't love them, that may be the answer. It felt like the claripatch made the Legere reeds more "cane-like" if that makes sense. If I were a doubler, or played outdoors a lot, I would absolutely use Legere/claripatch to get results that are 97% as good as a great cane reed.

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 Re: Aluminum Foil Technique by Ben Armato?
Author: Terry Stibal 
Date:   2007-04-04 15:59

We hockey players occasionally find someone who believes the old canard founded by the Hanson Brothers (who appeared in the movie Slap Shot, and who actually wear aluminum foil wrapped around their hands.

It doesn't work, of course, but that doesn't stop them from believing it.

Me? Well, I don't claim to be a believer in such stuff as it would enhance my performance, but I do have the nickel I found on the bench, on the same night that I scored four goals in one drop in game, sewn to the waste strap on my breezers. If nothing else, it doesn't hurt anything...

leader of Houston's Sounds Of The South Dance Orchestra
info@sotsdo.com

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