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Author: Koo Young Chung
Date: 2007-03-14 02:44
When I buy clarinet CD's,I try to find out which brand of clarinet is used
on the recording,but there's usually not enough information.
Sometimes the cover pictures are showing some features that you can guess,but even these pictures are not good quality and/or very small.
I'm wondering why don't they say what theyre playing (or recording).
Sometimes they list specific names of the equipment they used for recording(ex.mic,amp etc)but I think most people are interested in what they'replaying?
Is this like showing specific trade marks on movies?
Sometimes we know who plays what,but they don't play same instruments
all the time.
I wish they said what was used on CD.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2007-03-14 02:46
Koo Young Chung wrote:
> I'm wondering why don't they say what theyre playing (or
> recording).
99.99% of the people listening (if you include radio) don't care.
Unless it's of historic import I don't care 
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Author: Dano
Date: 2007-03-14 03:45
Here is the 00.01% that thinks it is interesting to know what clarinet is being played. Just as it is interesting to know any other trivia about recordings. I am sure your 99.99% guess is far off. Otherwise there would not be thousands of threads on "What's your setup?" People are interested about who plays what more than serious clarinetists think.
I wonder if they keep it only for paid endorsment purposes. I know musicians get paid a lot of money to make sure everyone knows what brand they use. I have looked carefully at album covers and cd covers and alot of the time, it looks like they have airbrushed the make of clarinet.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2007-03-14 03:50
Dano wrote:
> I am sure your 99.99% guess
> is far off. Otherwise there would not be thousands of threads
> on "What's your setup?"
Millions of people hear the recordings. 100s care about the instruments.
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Author: JTS
Date: 2007-03-14 07:25
Mark, I don't quite understand the point of your post. I would guess that your "100s" are the people who are on this board. Isn't this a valid thread for this board?
JTS
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2007-03-14 07:34
> Isn't this a valid thread for this board?
Maybe. But it'd be more like gossip - I wouldn't necessarily make a connection between how someone's playing and what he is playing.
And no one's playing my brand anyway...
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Ben
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2007-03-14 10:42
JTS wrote:
> Mark, I don't quite understand the point of your post.
The question was "Why don't people indicate their setup on their recordings". My post - "essentially no one cares". It's a valid thread - nothing to the contrary was indicated. There's also the possibility that some people change their equipment often over a relatively short period of time (witness Ricardo Morales) and it ends up being meaningless - except for that one recording.
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Author: skygardener
Date: 2007-03-14 10:52
I would venture that there are also advertisement laws and procedures that would have to be gone through.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2007-03-14 12:00
Regardless of the genre most cds don't indicate the instrument the soloist is using except if it has an historical significance.....and not always even when that's the case.
Bob Draznik
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Author: Danny Boy
Date: 2007-03-15 00:05
Hmmmm, 'X plays on a 1988 Buffet R13' doesn't have quite the same ring as 'Y plays on a 1718 Stradivarius' does it?
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2007-03-15 00:17
...but if "Z plays on a 577 Bundy", then bids at That Auction Site would skyrocket. ![[tongue]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie6.gif)
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Ben
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Author: joeyscl
Date: 2007-03-15 03:52
More people care about the Age of the ARtist... Maybe some even wonder about the maritial status of the artists too? ....and lets not go in to Zodiac signs...
maybe we should put that on there too
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2007-03-15 06:41
I have a few CDs where it's written what instrument they play, because they are endorsers. For example on both of my Trio De Clarinettes CDs it says something like 'Trio De Clarinettes play Selmer instruments' (although the contrabass clarinet is a Lelbanc). On another CD of a Selmer player it says he plays Selmer clarinets. On some CDs I have where I know the player is a Buffet endorser it doesn't say anything.
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2007-03-16 21:15
The only reason it would matter to me would be if, by buying the same instrument that Morales, Stoltzman, Marcellus or another great artist used, I could somehow, magically sound as he/she does, THEN it might make a difference. Otherwise, it's just trivia to me. Interesting trivia, but of no great importance to me.
Jeff
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Author: Koo Young Chung
Date: 2007-03-16 23:04
I've been to many concerts where ,I think,their rather poor(or poorly adjusted) instruments makes the performance less enjoyable.
I agree that the player is the most important factor,but instruments are
important too.
Many times in a big concert hall,violin sound are just lost.
It is not meant to play with heavy orchestra in a 3000 seat hall.
Also if the piano is too bright or to mushy,you won't havemusical experience like when itis well balanced and fully resonant.
Maybe it's jusrt me,but instrument is soi mportant violinist sometimes has
2nd mortgage to finance their instrument.
Otherwise nobody will buy $5,000.000. violin.
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Author: kenny1
Date: 2007-03-19 02:01
I may be a noob here, but I've been a guitar player for many years, so I may be able to help. I hope you don't mind.
It may not be a good thing to know what 'soandso' plays on a certain album, and this is why...
I have seen firsthand how certain popular guitarists can influence the collecting habits of other musicians. Some examples are Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughan and Eric Clapton playing Fender Stratocasters, Peter Green (Fleetwood Mac) playing a late1950's Gibson Les Paul, B.B. King and his Gibson ES-335 among others.
Each of these musicians have greatly influenced modern American popular music.
Each of these musicians also has a very large and powerful (and rich!) fan base who will do just about anything to buy "their hero's instrument", even if they themselves don't even play a note.
The upshot of this is that 'vintage' guitars of any possible value at all as instruments are disgustingly expensive, indeed priced far out of the reach of even many professional players. Even original replacement parts are impossible to find.
Those of you who own early Buffets, Selmers and other fine clarinets may have no idea how lucky they actually are. I scan 'that site' once in awhile to look for stuff, and I'm surprised to see how low priced a 'really good' clarinet is compared to even a low quality guitar.
rant over...
PS. If I have angered anyone with anything I have said, please email me offgroup.
Thank you,
kenny1
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