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Author: tommy d
Date: 2007-03-04 20:53
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I usually play a selmer 10S but couldn't resist this odd silver clarinet that I picked up on the market.
The box is labelled "Fullerton music Co, California", but clearly made in England. Serial no: 64092.
Plays very nicely across the range and has a lovely bright tone for Klezmer tunes.
I can't find any reference to this make anywhere.
Any ideas on age and how it ended up in a market in Mid Wales, UK?
Thanks
Tom Deakin.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2007-03-04 22:53
Going by the keywork (and serial number), it appears to be made by Boosey & Hawkes - probably from the '30s.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2007-03-04 23:06
I've got two Oxfords, one wood and one metal, and each appears to be identical to its respective Boosey & Hawkes counterpart (specifically the Edgware model).
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Author: jim lande
Date: 2007-03-19 04:26
Dave
Was there an Edgeware model metal clarinet? I have seen a Boosey & Hawkes on eBay and the XX Century by Hawkes. My notes say the Oxford was made by B&H -- but I don't recall why I believed it to be true. There were at least two other English maker of metal clarinets (Merril) and Henry Distin -- although the latter was pre 1900.
My collection of trade names on metal clarinets marked made in U.K. is as follows:
Hawkes
Embassy
Buckingham
Oxford
Revere
Henry Distin
Gaylord
Diplomat
Morrall
XX th Century
Note that the Revere was an trade name owned by a US importer and most Reveres were made in France or in the U.S. Basically, merry old was not a hotbed of metal clarinets.
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2007-03-19 14:22
Jim, I've never seen a B&H-branded metal clarinet, my posting above was badly written. What I meant is that I've got two "Oxford" clarinets; the wood one appears identical in every respect except labelling to a wood Edgware, while the metal Oxford appears to be of essentially identical keywork design to the wood one, with the exception of those things that necessarily differ on all single-wall metal clarinets such as post and standoff heights, body design (of course), etc.
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Author: tommy d
Date: 2007-03-22 13:05
David
Looking at the photo I posted , would you say your metal oxford has the same keywork etc? The serial number dates it to 1951/52 according to the list of B&H numbers in the equipment list. Does this make sense, as other articles have said that metal clarinets were largely stopped in the 40's.
What do you think?
Tom
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2007-03-22 14:33
The B&H serial numbers listed here (and practically everywhere else online) are way out.
The definitive serial number lists for B&H-built instruments (plus Buffet, Schreiber and Keilwerth) was pulled when the B&H group split.
Maybe contact Brian Ackerman or Trevor Head (NAMIR) as they might have the official list - I know there was an A4 copy pinned to a noticeboard at Merton Tech back in 1995, though as the Rutlish Rd. site was closed (where this list was) it could be anywhere, though with any luck someone might still have a copy.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: tommy d
Date: 2007-04-17 12:07
Recieved the following reply from Barnaby Marder :
I haven't come across this before, but it does occur to me that Fender
are based in Fullerton, CA. It may well be that at one point, in common
with other major instrument companies (eg Hohner, Wurlitzer) they paid
another manufacturer - presumably Boosey & Hawkes in this case - to produce woodwind & put their own name on it. That would be my guess.
The case looks rather like an old fender one.
Thanks to all for their comments . I'm getter a better idea of the history all the time!
Tom
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