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Author: saxlite
Date: 2007-02-20 14:12
I am interested in experimenting with a reduced barrel bore diameter....has anyone found an effective method of reducing the inside diameter of an existing barrel?
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Author: claritoot26
Date: 2007-02-20 14:50
I had a barrel done by Vince Marinelli in Wilmington, DE. He inserted a Moennig style tapered insert, made of resonite I guess. However, it was only a marginal improvement. And, the cost wasn't that much less than buying a new barrel.
Lori
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Author: Bob Phillips
Date: 2007-02-20 18:14
I tried placing a ring of tape in the lower end of a buffet barrel. NOT. too difficult to get in place and stuck. Failed experiment.
Bob Phillips
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2007-02-20 20:43
Bob,
cannibalize an office plastic folder, it can easily be cut to dimensions and only one strip of tape is needed to hold it in place.
(of course, other BBoard members would use <drum roll, fanfare> SUPERGLUE! to fasten it)
(Felt or short-haired fake fur instead of plastic will get you an all warm and fuzzy tone)
--
Ben
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2007-02-21 17:13
Yeah, but it'll have a certain sting to it.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: stevesklar
Date: 2007-02-21 18:05
I'm surprised no one just creates a new barrel from a block of dried superglue. After initial creation they can easily be fixed using superglue. (or an entire clarinet from superglue - call it the CP special)
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2007-02-21 18:13
I might try that - make a mould of a barrel using the stuff dentists use and fill it with superglue to make a non-splitting version.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Koo Young Chung
Date: 2007-02-21 23:50
This is what I tried for other purposes.
Find a small piece of silver sheet(0.2-0.3 mm thick). This is not that expensive.
You can order from a jewelry supplier or any jewelry store(about $5).
Cut to the length you want and wrap around to a smoothed surfaced
wooden or metal rod(something you can find around your desk top.)
Cut the piece so that the circumference is exactly match the barrel's
inside circumference length and file the edges so that it won't scratch it.
(you want to cut the circumference length little by little.)
You don't need any glueing.With a little tension .it stays securely.
Best of this method is that it is reversible.
You can try different thickness and/or length.
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Author: EuGeneSee
Date: 2007-02-22 00:35
Hank:
Better that you waxe poetic than start puntificating! Proceed.
Eu
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Author: Ed
Date: 2007-02-22 14:57
I have played barrels with hard rubber inserts that have been rebored that work great, including some by Guy Chadash.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2007-02-23 08:14
John wanted to redo the bore,
On a barrel he had in the drawer.
He altered the taper,
With black roofing paper,
He found at the Home Depot store.
But really he misunderstood.
Don't cover that African wood.
Perhaps good in theory,
The sound was quite dreary.
Results of this test? Not too good.
...GBK
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Author: EuGeneSee
Date: 2007-02-23 13:50
(Continued)
So he took out his scraper
And dug out that paper,
Then whenever he blew
The tar smell he did rue,
Ne'er more to try that caper.
Eu
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Author: KENOLD
Date: 2007-03-02 08:31
I've never tried it, but have thought that painting the bore with melted wax would be a simple and easily reversable method of experimentation.
Ken
Learn to perform even the things you don't like, as if you love to do them.
Post Edited (2007-03-02 08:39)
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2007-03-02 17:16
ream the old bore out using a 9/16ths forstner bit.
Insert a delrin or hard rubber peg.
That is where the crazy glue works best.
Next:
Pilot the peg at .525in (be sure to be dead-center---a laser alignment system helps if you dont have a lathe)
Ream the resultant bore to the desired dimension with successive passes of 5 or more french style reamers that your machinist made to your specifications.
Burnish with 2000 grit diamond paper or similar.
Toot away.
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2007-03-02 20:19
I'm all for the wax method if you want to restore the barrel to it's former glory after experimenting with it - the hard black wax we use for tuning oboes (applied to toneholes to flatten notes) will do the trick, and can be melted or cut to any shape.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: saxlite
Date: 2007-03-02 23:46
Thanks for the useful suggestions (and the limericks!)
Jerry
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Author: hans
Date: 2007-03-03 00:09
Chris P,
Maybe some of the dentists who read this will comment further, but according to my dentist "the stuff dentists use" is so expensive that making a clarinet from it would be prohibitively expensive. But I enjoy your creative thinking.
The poetry in this thread was very entertaining, a nice break from working on my #@$#%!!!! taxes.
Regards,
Hans
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2007-03-03 00:12
Hans said:
"but according to my dentist "the stuff dentists use" is so expensive that making a clarinet from it would be prohibitively expensive. But I enjoy your creative thinking."
....and that's NOW....they formerly used GOLD!!!
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2007-03-03 00:28
"make a mould of a barrel using the stuff dentists use" - I meant the rubbery stuff they use for making moulds of your gnashers with there.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2007-03-03 02:08
Aha..... "an impression" like what they do to create bite plates or dentures.
The easiest bore replacement I ever did was on my shotgun. ![[grin]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie5.gif)
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-
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