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Author: chinaboy61
Date: 2007-02-24 21:10
I just bought a R-13 about 2 weeks ago and a crack has appeared on the barrel. The crack does'nt go though or does it affect the sound...and in some odd reason I feel like I caused the crack. I could take it back and ask for a exchange or I was thinking this was a excuse to buy one of those new nice buffet barrels. I don't like being that rude customer that always has to go through all the junk. what should I do?
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Author: AllanMc
Date: 2007-02-24 23:45
Depending if there was a waranty on it when you bought it (I bet there was), you might be able to have the barrel replaced free of charge. If you don't want to do that you can either pay lots of money to have it pinned or put some super glue into the crack.
If you can get it replaced, I'd recommend it because cracks can get worse over time. Then make sure you don't play it too much at first so that it has time to work in, and make sure you swab it out every time you're done playing.
I also wouldn't recommend dishing out the cash for a custom barrel at this point. You need to be familiar with your instrument before you can really make a good decision regarding a custom barrel.
If you do eventually decide to get one, I highly recommend Morrie Backun's barrels.
http://www.backunmusical.com/barrels.html
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Author: mk
Date: 2007-02-25 00:08
was this a used instrument? The barrel might have been cracked without your knowledge. Barrels in my opinion are replaceable. I would not waste time pinning it. Try to negotiate a credit towards a replacement barrel. If you can try new barrels, blow a few and see if you can find one that is suitable to your taste. I would not expect a dealer to give you a new barrel for an even exchange, but it would be reasonable for you to expect some monetary credit towards a replacement.
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2007-02-25 04:38
If it was a new clarinet with a warrenty (or maybe even an old clarinet with a warrenty) then the store should replace or repair it for free. For new instruments they usually replace it because I think the factory will replace it. When I bought a new clarinet from WW&BW the barrel cracked but it was after the warrenty expired. They still gave me a replacement for free.
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2007-02-25 10:03
Pinning is overkill for a barrel, which has reinforced ends.
Repalcement under warranty is best.
However filling/gluing a crack in a barrel is pretty straight forward, but I suggest you get a reliable technician to do it, because a novice can make a big mess, especially if that black tarry stuff has been used as a grainfiller on the timber.
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Author: nickma
Date: 2007-02-25 11:59
I personally wouldn't glue a barrel unless the crack was obviously large rather than hairpin, especially if it doesn't go all the way through. Ralph Morgan recommends orange oil mixed with refined flower oil, and rub it in daily. You can get nice barrels for $80, so I would try maintaining it with oil to see if you can prevent it gettign worse. If it gets worse, then buy a new one. Better still, get a warranty replacement if it's new.
You say you feel it is in some way your fault. How come?
Nick
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Author: chinaboy61
Date: 2007-02-25 15:02
The barrel got stuck and I applied some pressure on it..My private tutor said it wasn't my fault anyway...and yes for all you guys its new.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2007-02-25 15:45
Tenons will need refitting when new as the wood swells after being played for a bit (and then settles down) - but this is normal and since the clarinet should be under warranty, you should get a replacement barrel at no cost.
It's been brought to my attention that Yamaha recommend enlarging the socket rather than taking the tenon rings down to achieve a better fit.
I'd be interested in hearing what you all think about this.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: mk
Date: 2007-02-26 00:01
new barrel under warranty should be replaced regardless of cause in the case of a crack. You can't fault anyone for a stuck barrel that cracks due to stress from removal. I would not touch tenons at this point. I would adjust barrel socket to tenon. Its poses less chance of problems down the road should the joints begin to shrink. Go back to dealer and ask him to let you try as many barrels as he has around. You hopefully will come up with one as good or even better if you are lucky.
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