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Author: Jkaye
Date: 2007-02-23 14:06
What mouthpieces and sizes do you suggest for middle school students? I need some ideas for a few students.
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Author: am0032
Date: 2007-02-23 14:17
Lomax makes a great student mouthpiece called the Prelude that is spectacular. It retails for less than $40.
Adam
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2007-02-23 15:22
If you're looking at Vandoren MPCs, I found the M15 and B40 to be pretty good. (I've tried several of each, each time being pretty impressed).
I also like the Gigliotti "Maestro" mouthpieces ($95).
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: GBK
Date: 2007-02-23 20:26
The Fobes Debut, at about $35 plays better (and is finished better) than many mouthpieces twice or three times the price ...GBK
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Author: Elkwoman46
Date: 2007-02-23 21:29
A lot of people have been highly acclaiming the Vandoren B45; while it retails for well over $100.00--- at places like Musician's Friend it is quite less...
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Vandoren-B45-Profile-88-Bb-Clarinet-Mouthpiece?sku=460168
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Author: ElBlufer
Date: 2007-02-23 21:56
However, you should also be advised that not all students will ike the same mouthpiece, and that the students should be able to try different mouthpieces and decide what they like.
My Setup:
R13 Clarinet (Ridenour Lyrique as my backup/marching instrument)
Walter Grabner K11 mouthpiece
Rico Reserve 3.5's
Bonade ligature
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Author: Elkwoman46
Date: 2007-02-23 23:04
Oh, yes! Elblufer, I should have mentioned from what I gathered that if one buys for example the Vandoren B45 mouthpieces, likely they will want to use the Vandoren V12 reeds with it, which apparently have a higher numbering system per the available sizes. These reeds apparently fit the mouthpiece better and will function better; something having to do with the elongated design of the mouthpiece...well, at least that is what I have been reading.
The clarinet that I bought did already have the B45 on it, and I am still waiting for my order for the V12 reeds which was recommended to me for it.
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Author: shmuelyosef
Date: 2007-02-24 16:21
Is this true of older B45 Vandorens as well. I have a couple older ones that both play identically, but never really thrilled me, but I have been using Mitchell Lurie reeds for some time (Rico) and they are definitely the anti-VD.
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Author: Elkwoman46
Date: 2007-02-24 17:02
Hello, Shmuelyosel, can't remember where I gathered this information exactly off hand, but it was right here on this wonderful forum with the Normandy 4 discussions.
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Author: antonwebern
Date: 2007-02-24 18:15
Charles Bay checked out my Fobes Debut when I was getting a new piece from him. He thought it was beautifully made, though a touch on the closed side (but that's coming from him...). It is totally awesome, sounds good no matter what, and if you have a teacher send a letter to Fobes, its free.
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Author: Richie Hawley
Date: 2007-02-25 03:10
Vandoren:
1 M15
2 M15
3 M15
4 M15
5 M15
Note: I have plenty of "top notch" Cheds to play on..... and the M15 is as good as them all.
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Author: John O'Janpa
Date: 2007-02-25 03:34
If I were a middle school band director, I would see if the school would fund a set of mouthpieces composed of a half dozen or so of the above listed mouthpieces for students to try. They can be sterilized between students. A set could be selected with varying lays. Once a student knew which one worked best for him his parents could then purchase one like it.
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Author: katie_netie
Date: 2007-02-26 03:17
I recommend sending your students out to try the Vandorens. They should try a variety... the M series and the B series and see what works for them. They are around 100 dollars (canadian) but they will make a huge difference if the student finds the right one, and will make a student instrument sound amazing.
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Author: Bassie
Date: 2007-02-26 10:38
If you're looking at Vandoren it's worth knowing that the M's, B's and the 5RV are completely different animals. 5RV has been around for a century. The B's were developed in the 60's and the M's are a recent addition, apparently a great success in the US. You'll need a reed a whole strength harder to play an 'M' if you're used to the B's.
I played 5RV for years when I was learning... it has something of a reputation for being easy to play. B45, on the other hand, has a reputation for potentially sounding great but being ... inconsistent? ... and leading to all sorts of nasty habits in beginners. I can't comment on the 'M's: I tried an M30 and it was just weird for my playing habits.
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Author: theclarinetguy
Date: 2007-02-27 02:38
I personally played on a B45 for about 5 years. I just switched to a custom mouthpiece. You will have to use V12's for the mouthpiece since it is more of an open facing. But when I got it in high school it really improved my tone and was very satisfied with how long it lasted me. I did get mine for about $40, but I was at a master class so got a little bit of a deal.
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2007-02-27 21:27
Walter Grabner makes an excellent student/intermediate mouthpiece for under 100.00. I highly recommend looking into that. He's a sponsor. Click the box to the right of this screen that says "mouthpieces & barrels."
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Author: CEC
Date: 2007-02-28 01:17
Also, blue box Vandoren reeds work great with the B45. V12s are nice, but not a necessity.
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2007-02-28 03:37
$100? How could I forget! If you can get a hold of him and get to try out some of his mouthpieces, Dan Johnston. I bought one from him for $100 about two years ago. It was a very 'odd' mouthpiece (meaning that the facing and tip opening etc. only allowed me to play with 2.5 to size 3 reeds, but it sounded REALLY nice and was a GREAT mouthpiece.
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: Synonymous Botch
Date: 2007-03-01 18:22
The mouthpiece that you can try before purchase - that's valuable even if you don't buy that one in particular.
I like Walter Grabner's stuff, too.
Dave Spiegelthal makes some really nice, easily playable mpcs... for less.
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2007-03-01 23:41
> Ralph Morgan Protone.
I know that this is utterly off-topic, but I'd never call my product like that - it just evocates "Neutrone".
<seriously considerS registering "Klingon" as a woodwind accessory trademark>
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Ben
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Author: Chalumeau Joe
Date: 2007-03-02 00:27
tictactux,
Agreed...the name definitely has a sci-fi feel about it...
...but it's still a great mouthpiece for the price (I think I paid $23 for mine).
Live long and prosper!
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2007-03-02 00:34
> Live long and prosper!
<does the Vulcan Greeting>
See, event they {had/have/will have} forked fingerings. ;-)
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Ben
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Author: joeyscl
Date: 2007-03-02 01:04
We should have a "top 100 $5 mouthpieces" thread instead :D
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