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 French page
Author: Hiroshi 
Date:   1999-03-08 06:54

This may be good for younger people,who started clarinet or saxophone although in French.This is totally Greek to me(a Japanese).I guess English/American people can read French more easily since in 1066 a.d.Norman conquest took place in Great Britain.

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 RE: French page
Author: Hiroshi 
Date:   1999-03-08 06:58

SOrry,fogot typing the address.
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/helleringer/

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 RE: French page
Author: Rick2 
Date:   1999-03-08 14:51

Actually, the Brits might have a shot at it, but the Americans are world famous for making everybody else learn to speak English. There are far more Americans that speak only English than are bilingual (myself included).

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 RE: French page
Author: Mario 
Date:   1999-03-08 15:10

This could be the object of quite an intense debate. But, English is becoming the "second language" of humanity - the de facto Esperanto. There are close to 1.5 billions people in the world you can sort of make sense of English. Some of them can be even be found in the US...

The liberating influence of such a standard protocol is incredible. Hiroshi: we can interact because you and me understand English as a second language. English is the TCP/IP of languages: It is not necessarily pretty, but it is a de facto standard, it works and is widely available.

As well, leaning more than one languages makes an individual more intelligent because is expand the cognitive skills and range of concepts available to the brain. The same hold for music by the way which acts the same way on the brain. So, imagine how smart multi-lingual people who also play music are.

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 RE: French page
Author: Rick2 
Date:   1999-03-08 18:52

Especially the multilingual musical mathematicians...ah, mathematics, the universal language.

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 RE: French page
Author: Mario 
Date:   1999-03-08 20:11

Agree. They must, by the sheer influence of the incredible gymnastics that they went through in their life, by the most gifted intellects on earth.

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 RE: French page
Author: Dee 
Date:   1999-03-08 22:19



Hiroshi wrote:
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This may be good for younger people,who started clarinet or saxophone although in French.This is totally Greek to me(a Japanese).I guess English/American people can read French more easily since in 1066 a.d.Norman conquest took place in Great Britain.
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Actually it doesn't help at all. The language that resulted from the Norman conquest blended the Romance language of French and the Germanic language of Anglo Saxon and came up with something totally unique. It is not possible for speakers of English to understand French or German unless we put in a dedicated study of the language. Then of course there were several changes in English after that time that further removed it from the languages of the continent.

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 RE: French page
Author: Ginny 
Date:   1999-03-08 22:42

Well, I could get the gist of that site, with extremely limited language ability (hey, I'm pretty bad with English.) I'm sure most of you could too, since the roots are all Latin. It's speaking something other than English (like say music) that I find so hard. It did not seem as magnificent or informative as Sneezy here.

And there's always the babblefish website for a really bad translation.


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 RE: French page
Author: Hiroshi 
Date:   1999-03-09 01:34

Roman soldiers conquered german France(Frank Empire) and made their language latin,but at The Elbe another german fought back them.French and German people have the same ethnic origin-German(pronunciated GERUMAN).

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 RE: French page
Author: Don Poulsen 
Date:   1999-03-09 04:20

Rick2--

Thanks for the compliment! Although I am not fluent in any language except English (American?), I know enough Spanish, German and Mandarin (Chinese) to get myself in trouble. And I definitely consider myself a mathematician. Are you too a multilingual musical mathematician?

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 RE: French page- language and trade
Author: Frank 
Date:   1999-03-09 17:41

Despite what we literary types may tell you, language follows trade. Regions, economic entities, countries with the greater economic authority [to mean power, activity, unusual products, etc.] will tend to promote their own language system as a consequence of this economic weight. It is neither a good or bad thing, it just happens. It is not the result of a conspiracy or of "unfair" practices.

Those who value their own arts, religious systems, sciences and the like and who are not as powerful will suffer - or better said: lose the value of their own societal constructs in the competition.

Those who are the more powerful in economic terms will,of course, claim that their own arts, sciences, religions are superior. They will normally not lament the passing of other values excepting as curiousities.

I believe many of the cultural artifacts that the US exports are dreadful. MacDonalds and Disney are not essentially valuable things - but until recieving countries determine that their culture is worth keeping and is threatened by such imports, they will loss cultural value in exchange for economic goods.

Frank



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