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Author: Elkwoman46
Date: 2007-02-13 19:24
Hello, I don't know if this question is asked all the time...
But I would kindly like to know what the basics are about "why" barrels are being replaced on a perfectly good instrument???
I really would like to know what this is all about.
Thank you so kindly.
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2007-02-13 21:38
Hi elkwoman,
Welcome to the clarinet BB. It seems that you have much to discover since there is a world of information in the archives.
However, I notice that in just a short time, you have started a great number of threads (6 on the opening page); many of these threads ask a lot of questions that have been covered multiple times in discussion over the years.
You might find it very effective and a great time saver to use the Search function above and do key words search for things like the topic of this thread. If you have not done this, you will be impressed with the wealth of knowledge available.
Also, feel free to ask many of us question off-line by clicking on our names and sending private email. BTW, it would have been helpful if you had posted your email address in your profile and then I could have just sent you a private email rather than posting this message. That would be a great time save for you to get the info you need without having to wait for some to post a reply.
Happy Hunting!
HRL
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Author: Elkwoman46
Date: 2007-02-13 21:57
Dear Hank,
I have noticed that you are not the only one who has directed me into a search the board reply. I thought about that. I realized that I had spent a lot of time on another forum that was sequential and dropped off, never saved, and so the board was extremely active, but nothing was saved. Every topic was started a new, and actually after a few days that topic was usually long gone. Within twenty minutes a topic could already be at the bottom of a very long page.
In this, I sense that my attitude was keeping the forum active, and it seems that it is not desired here for some reason, which kind of amazes me.
I thought most forums kind of die if no one keeps it active.
I am very surprised, still, at the attitude here.
I am puzzled.
I sense that generic questions are not asked here because if folks are not answering them, then it is a big waste of time. I have seen other forums where someone is asking questions, and then noticing the date, it is very out dated and no one ever replied. The originator is probably long gone and gave up on waiting.
Curious how different forums are, yes?
Perhaps someone will answer my questions anyway; I am very persistent.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2007-02-13 22:16
Elkwoman46 -
This is not like other forums. Mark is a pro and does it right. Nothing is ever lost or drops off. Furthermore, Mark has set up a *great* search engine that will let you find almost anything quickly.
For example, here's a recent thread on barrels: http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=237319&t=237287.
There are many more postings on barrels, some fairly technical. The answer to your question is that a properly designed barrel can improve your clarinet's tone and response very noticeably, and that there are several excellent barrel makers who participate here and can advise you. For example, you won't go wrong with Walter Grabner, Greg Smith or Alan Segal. Each of them will consult with you, answer your questions, ask questions that will reveal what you need, and make a barrel that will be right for you and your clarinet.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Bob Phillips
Date: 2007-02-13 22:28
I think that NOT answering queries and sending 'most questioners off to the archives is a disservice.
This is a bulletin board, a discussion/forum (I think). I think of the archives as a resource, but personal communication makes this more valuable than a mere database.
For example, Ken Shaw's concise reply to elkwoman is a valuable summary that provides a needed stepping-off place --background that will make searching the archives more productive.
Bob Phillips
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2007-02-13 22:28
Thanks, Ken, for the kind words.
To answer Elkwoman... without getting into the "quatum physics" of the barrel, basically, it comes down to two things:
1. Intonnation.
2. Timbre
Everything else is an expansion of these two factors (eg fuzzy throat tones, uneven twelvths, darkness of tone, brightness, and all the other descriptives).
disclaimer...I make and sell barrels.
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2007-02-13 23:23
Bob Phillips wrote:
> I think that NOT answering queries and sending 'most
> questioners off to the archives is a disservice.
I don't - reading the previous threads tends to answer the immediate question and leads to more insightful questions (I would hope). There's no such thing as too much knowledge. I put the search engine in to concentrate the information collected here and make it really fast to search. However, entering one search term isn't very efficient. Entering a few at least limits most queries to the top 100 or so.
And yes, I've read every one of the 238,280 posts here and the 60 or 70 thousand that were lost during a transition from a less sophisticated system.
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2007-02-13 23:46
Hi Bob,
I don't happen to agree with you as well. I go through periods when I can not take the BB seriously because there are so many redundant posts on the same generic topics (which piece of equipment is best, I'm so worried about all-state, how do I apply, etc.). New and very unique threads catch my attention.
I use the search function a lot. When I can find no links that seem to fit will then post a thread. I try to be very respectful of my BB colleague's time and opinions and want all my original posts to be taken seriously. If I post too often, people can easily get the feeling "oh, not another post for old what's his name." Yawn!
Just my opinion, of course.
HRL
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Author: GBK
Date: 2007-02-14 00:03
Mark Charette wrote:
> And yes, I've read every one of the 238,280 posts here
[ I have waded through (and deleted as needed) all of them, as well. ![[wink]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie3.gif) ...GBK ]
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