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 Re: Buffet left hand nylon pin/dowel
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2007-02-05 17:29

The ball joint/pin concept is alright in theory, but looking at late MkVI saxes using them on the side Bb and C shows how things don't always work as planned. Even Yamaha Custom saxes (as well engineered as they are) have some unwanted play in the pin where it fits into the actuating levers, though they do have a Teflon sleeve over the end of the connecting pin (where the ball fits onto) on the pad cup arms to keep the noise down.

Hydraulically driven keys are a good idea as they can do away with a lot of the mechanism - just the necessary finger buttons and hydraulic pipes to connect to the pad cups. Just have to make sure the master and slave cylinders don't spring a leak or it could get messy.

Or pad cups driven by servo motors provided the pads are seated well, and your battery isn't flat. Mechanical solutions are far more trustworthy than electronics for that simple reason.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.

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