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 Re: Is Music a Second Language?
Author: skygardener 
Date:   2007-01-16 14:49

Eu- "Woof. Screech. Plunk. Thud. Vroom. Buzz. Meow . . . (etc.)

So, onomatopoeic words violate the base requirement and therefore are not truly a part of language?"
Not really, because they have to be joined with other words or a picture to give a message. And to be honest there is no similarity between the sound of a door slamming and the word "bang" that we associate it with.

You want to go with onomatopoeic examples... Let's just take the example of the sound of glass breaking. If we hear it there is no thought in our mind except for "there is glass being broken nearby", but if we hear the sound of glass being broken and then a scream, we think "there may have been some sort of glass related injury or a house has been broken into nearby. Maybe I should try to get help because a scream is a call for attention and or help when something bad happens or is expected to happen to the screamer".
THAT is language, communication of something other than itself.
And the Moldau. I don't know that piece, but I will assume that it doesn't have the sound of actual water. In that case, the connection to water is made by using another language to tell you that water is being represented (just like Symphonie Fantastique; we must be TOLD the story in a real language and THEN we see the pictures in our head). And even The Moldau does have the sound of real water, we get to the same thing. The sound of water representing water= not a language.
Sorry.
-S

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