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Author: Asain
Date: 2007-01-12 21:52
I'm not entirely if sure if the problem is the wood or not, but here goes.
I've recent noticed that I cannot fully join the top and bottom joints of my clarinet. For example, there is a slight gap in the middle where the two joints meet, kind of like when you pull out the middle when tuning. I cannot get rid of this no matter how much cork grease I use. Has the wood swollen so much that it doesn't fit anymore? The same has happened with one of my barrels. It doesn't even fit anymore.
Is there any way that I can fix this problem?
Thanks
FYI, All Region tryouts are tomorrow. It's suppose to be VERY cold. How will this affect the wood?
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Author: Gandalfe
Date: 2007-01-12 21:58
See your tech for an estimate and explanation. Cultivate that relationship if you plan to stay in the music business. Be nice to him/her as you will learn a lot. :o)
Jim and Suzy
Pacifica Big Band
Seattle, Washington
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Author: GBK
Date: 2007-01-12 21:58
Asain wrote:
> Is there any way that I can fix this problem?
It sounds like the WOOD is binding between the tenon and the socket. It most likely is NOT a cork problem.
Take it to a repair tech and have it done (fixed) professionally...GBK
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Author: Asain
Date: 2007-01-12 22:21
Will it be expensive to fix the problem? I cannot afford to spend for example $100 dollars right now.
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Author: johng ★2017
Date: 2007-01-12 22:40
I had the same problem with a new clarinet. My tech charged me on about $70 to fix that and fix a few pad seatings and some key adjustments. He had a special reaming gadget for making fixes to tenons.
johng
John Gibson, Founder of JB Linear Music, www.music4woodwinds.com
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2007-01-12 22:50
If your clarinet is new, then having the tenons fitted should be covered by the warranty so you should not have to fork out anything, so take it back to where you bought it from and have them sort it out - if they can do it while you wait (call them to make an appointment beforehand, don't just turn up just in case their repairer isn't there) it should be done in around an hour.
Only a small amount of wood is taken off the tenon rings, and checked each time to be sure the tenon doesn't rock or wobble - the tenons should be a good fit before the cork is fitted, and the cork serves as an airtight seal and also to grip the socket to make sure the joints don't come apart too easily.
This is normal on a new wooden clarinet for tenons to bind after a few weeks of playing, and easy enough for any repairer to sort out.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2007-01-13 02:39
More than likely, the wood has assumed a slightly ovoid shape. Easily remedied.
One thing...make sure that you do not have cork grease impacted at the bottom of the joint. It can happen.
Also check for swings in temperature and humidity in your home.
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-
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Author: Asain
Date: 2007-01-13 09:44
"so take it back to where you bought it from and have them sort it out"
I bought it from wwbw.
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Author: pewd
Date: 2007-01-13 14:15
any decent local repair shop should be able to deal with it fairly quickly ; this is a common problem on new instruments
- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2007-01-13 14:52
If you bought it from wwbw, send it back to them and get them to send you another one. It should still be within their 45 day return policy, and if not, give them a call and tell them it is defective. Have them to confirm that it will be credited back to you before ordering a new one. If this means you will be without an instrument go ahead and get the ball rolling on getting the new one out to you. But, as I mentioned, be certain that you have spoken to them about the return and it is going to be credited back to you.
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Author: Bob Phillips
Date: 2007-01-13 14:57
Sounds like a Buffet. Their tenons are frequently so tight that remediation is required.
Bob Phillips
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Author: shmuelyosef
Date: 2007-01-14 01:28
This was something like ten years ago, but I bought an E11 for my son as a starter instrument from WWBW. It had the same tight tenon problem. I called them and they told me to take it to a local tech and send them the bill. They refunded me promptly. Can't hurt to try.
jeff
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2007-01-14 01:40
It just depends upon how long you've had the instrument. They have a 45 day return policy, so if you're within that window you have the option to return it. If you wait beyond that time length you probably will have to go to a tech unless they agree to exchange or fix it.
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2007-01-14 02:12
WWBW will fix it for you if you like the horn and want to keep it. All you have to do is ship it back to them. Call customer service and make the arrangements. They wuill send you a prepaid FedEx label so you won't have to eat the costs of shipping.
I am having a similar problem with one of the cocobollo tuning barrels on the Cadenza I got last month. They told me they would give me X dollars toward having it repaired locally, or I could ship it to them, and they will fix it for free.
Jeff
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Author: Asain
Date: 2007-01-14 02:18
It's a leblanc cadenza.
The thing is, wwbw doesn't sell this product anymore. I'll call them on Tuesday and see if they can help.
Thanks for the information!
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2007-01-15 14:31
Asain, you say wwbw doesn't sell this product anymore. How do you know that? Is it just because it is not in stock at the moment? Or, have you actually spoken to a wwbw salesperson who has told you they are not going to continue selling this instrument? In any event, if it is defective you need to return it for a refund. If they don't sell these anymore, there are other stores who will sell you a new Leblanc Cadenza for the same price you paid at wwbw if you call them and ask for a price match. I read on the bboard that Kessler Music in Las Vegas has them. WWBW will make it right.
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