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 Bananas and beta blockers
Author: SVClarinet09 
Date:   2007-01-01 03:43

I've read in many threads and places all over the web about bananas and their calming effects. I understand they do work but do they really have Natural beta blockers? I was reading an article from an online health resource and it says there isn't a natural remedy for beta blockers. Then in another article I read that bananas contain a high level of B6 which help calm your heart rate just like many foods high in carbohydrates. I also remember learning in elementary school that chocolate calms you down. I read that this is possible through the high amount of Tryptophan in chocolate which in return leads to more production of Serotonin. So my question is which item would result best for a one day thing. I have District tryouts this Saturday and when I record myself I sound real good but my nerves have been known to get the best of me at times. I get real nervous in jazz band sometimes whenever my solos come up.



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 Re: Bananas and beta blockers
Author: GBK 
Date:   2007-01-01 05:28

There is a very long thread about beta blockers in the "Keepers" section of the bulletin board:

http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=20&i=68&t=68

...GBK



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 Re: Bananas and beta blockers
Author: Bob A 
Date:   2007-01-01 23:56

Bananas may work but when you belch them they leave a hell of a taste in your mpc.
BOB a

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 Re: Bananas and beta blockers
Author: FDF 
Date:   2007-01-02 00:13

Take deep breaths before you perform to help yourself relax, and learn to channel your stage fright into positive energy.

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 Re: Bananas and beta blockers
Author: EuGeneSee 
Date:   2007-01-02 01:24

Yeah, Bob, then you get your chops full of fruit flies when you try to play the horn. Eu

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 Re: Bananas and beta blockers
Author: Cuisleannach 
Date:   2007-01-02 05:35

The best cure for nervousness is preparation....

That being said, in my younger years I used to use a (one!!!) beer to calm myself down before auditions. Then I got migraines and got put on beta blockers, so they helped. As the years have passed I've gotten less and less nervous about performances.

-Randy

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 Re: Bananas and beta blockers
Author: skygardener 
Date:   2007-01-02 15:53

7 or 8 sleeping pills should take the edge off!
but seriously, if you know that you have practiced and you know that you have it down then there is no reason to be scared.
-S

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 Re: Bananas and beta blockers
Author: Bob Phillips 
Date:   2007-01-03 00:40

what you know has little to do with what you feel
darn

Bob Phillips

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 Re: Bananas and beta blockers
Author: SVClarinet09 
Date:   2007-01-03 00:50

I recorded myself and listened to myself over and over. I fixed the smallest mistakes in the world I could find. I know I'm prepared. I know I'll do well but I have a nerve problem I assume because I can't do any sort of work that requires delicate hand motions because my hands shake all the time. I can't cut in a straight line, I can't put thread in a needle easily, everything is made difficult. As I sit here right now I can feel my hands shake as I type on the keyboard. This is something I've had since I was a little kid. At first I thought it was from playing alot of Spanish guitar but I noticed I had it before then. It's not as bad as other people I know though.



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 Re: Bananas and beta blockers
Author: skygardener 
Date:   2007-01-03 01:07

How old are you now?
I had a similar problem (shaking hands) until my late teens. It's gone now.
The only other person that I know with this problem did a lot of weight lifting. As long as he was using force he was fine but when he was 'relaxed' his hands shook a lot.
Have you beem to a Doctor about this?
-S

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 Re: Bananas and beta blockers
Author: SVClarinet09 
Date:   2007-01-03 01:31

i'm 15. i don't do alot of weight lifting. i havent been to a doctor but maybe I should..



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 Re: Bananas and beta blockers
Author: skygardener 
Date:   2007-01-03 01:48

Stop the lifting for 2 months and tell us how things are in March.

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 Re: Bananas and beta blockers
Author: skygardener 
Date:   2007-01-03 13:26

Melvin-
these are just some questions I have about possible causes of your contition-
do you...
drive a car or motorcycle? or even a bicycle?
do you do any martial arts or do you do any regular excercise that you use your hands a lot (eg. swimming, push-ups, etc)?
do you type on the computer a lot? play video games a lot?
and did you do these things when you were young? I remember another classmate of mine that always rode a motorcycle had that problem too.
basically, any consistant extreme muscleusage could cause this.

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 Re: Bananas and beta blockers
Author: SVClarinet09 
Date:   2007-01-04 00:51

well...I rode my bike alot when I was young. I played baseball until the last year or so when I gave it up for band. No martial arts. Exercise is not too often. I run but I don't really lift weights or do any of those things. I do type on the computer alot as most teenagers do being my WPM is around 65. I used to play video games alot when I was younger mainly gameboys which involved your thumb. Today I was approached by people who realized I shook all the time. They just thought I was nervous because I have 3 solos in one song and I said I wasn't nervous, it's just that I've been like that ever since I've been young. It's not extreme to the point where I can't write neatly as my handwriting is real neat. I know people who shake so bad they can't pick thing s up. I'm just really scared I might act up this Saturday and screw up my chances of going to All State. I'm not nervous about it because I basically spent 2.5 hours today cleaning up the slurs and staccatos in my solo. My scales are definitely my forte and I never go wrong there. And I wouldn't be nervous about messing up sightreading so I just don't want to have one of those moments where I shake alot and it damages my playing.

Could doing alot of landscaping be a culprit? This summer I worked a landscaping job where I used a pushmower and blower alot and the blower wasnt electric so it shook alot.



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 Re: Bananas and beta blockers
Author: FDF 
Date:   2007-01-04 01:10

Have you discussed this with your parents? If not, you should let them know how concerned you are, and that you want to know if professional advice is available to help you control your problem.

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 Re: Bananas and beta blockers
Author: chumbucket804 
Date:   2007-01-04 04:03

Kinda related on the whole nervous while/before playing thing.. it's something that may help (well it works for me anyway) with the shaking. Try to focus on your shaking. What part is shaking the most? Maybe it's your hands. Which hand? The right one. Which finger is shaking the most? The last two. By this time I usually notice my other hand not shaking much or even at all and the hand I was focusing on is beginning to calm as well. Just being aware and not trying to stop what is happening can help. It may not be a solution first time around but over time you will see results. I would also recommend the book "The Inner Game of Music" by Barry Green. It gives great advice on focusing on everything besides the technical part of performing or auditioning.

Oh and eating a banana before seems to help, but honestly, I think it's mostly all in my head.



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 Re: Bananas and beta blockers
Author: leonardA 
Date:   2007-01-04 15:48

I have had the same shaking hands syndrome for over 40 years. The doctor years ago said it was not Parkinson's but was called an "intention tremor" I guess because it happens when I go to perform an intentional fine motor activity. It does get worse if I'm nervous. Lately I've been doing Tai chi, and I find that this really has reduced the shaking. An accupuncturist told me once that I had a lot of blocked chi (energy), and one of the things tai chi is supposed to do is balance the chi. So I'm not sure, but it may be worth a try for those of you who have this.

About performance anxiety, I have acted for many years and I used to tremble before I went on stage. Now I'm pretty calm. I think you just have to go through a number of performances of whatever you are doing until it gets better.

Leonard

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 Re: Bananas and beta blockers
Author: SVClarinet09 
Date:   2007-01-04 22:37

Well I think I learned to channel my fears. Today we had to perform our All District solo and sightread a piece of music. When I went into my director's office, I wasn't nervous. I could feel my heart pace when I got to a difficult passage but I wasn't shaking and I was calm. I ended up getting a pretty good score. And for sightreading, I was nervous at all either. It was like I was relaxed. So this definitely boosts my confidence for Saturday and my nervousness will no longer be as large as it used to =]



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 Re: Bananas and beta blockers
Author: SVClarinet09 
Date:   2007-01-07 03:36

Well update. I had my auditions today and I'm going to all state. My solo was a perfect score. But sightreading was admitted to be way beyond our level so it set me back but as long as I get to try out I'm fine =]



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