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 How do you enjoy your music?
Author: Sean.Perrin 
Date:   2006-12-28 05:02

Although not directly related to the clarinet... I'm wondering how everyone here likes to enjoy their music!

Being a student I am always on the go so for me I convert all my CDs to MP3 and store them on my iPod.

I'm curious if anybody listens to exclusively LPs. I know that a lot of people think that it is still be best way to listen, even if not the most convenient!

Here is what I use to enjoy my music on the go:

80GB iPod
Etymotic ER4P Headphones



Founder and host of the Clarineat Podcast: http://www.clarineat.com

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 Re: How do you enjoy your music?
Author: skygardener 
Date:   2006-12-28 06:20

Most people think I am a bit strange about this, but I almost never listen to music except for live performances. When I listen to recordings I make a point to only listen once- as though it were live. If I want to hear it again, I will look for a different performance of the same piece; I make use of the library to save money, of course.
I think I am a bit backward in this respect, but I feel that limiting my music intake to live (or quasi-live) experiences makes every note I hear even more special. However, this translates that I really only hear music (other than my own practice) about twice per month.
I wonder if there is anyone else like this out there.
-S

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 Re: How do you enjoy your music?
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2006-12-28 08:00

Having two kids around, I convert my newly acquired CDs to mp3. I have a cheap usb stick mp3 player, good enough for maybe ~150 titles. Normally I have just about five of the most-often listened-to albums on it, the rest serves as a data store for computer related squeaks (I'm an IT engineer by trade).

But the answer to the subject question: standing, with a clarinet in my hands. :)

--
Ben

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 Re: How do you enjoy your music?
Author: Bassie 
Date:   2006-12-28 11:29

> I'm curious if anybody listens to exclusively LPs.

Not exclusively... but it is by far the coolest way to do it if you've got the time, the space and the inclination. It's amazing what you can pick up in the charity shops for 50p. Also amazing is just how good modern turntables are, for ridiculously small sums of money.

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 Re: How do you enjoy your music?
Author: Lelia Loban 2017
Date:   2006-12-28 12:13

I've kept some LPs of performances never re-issued on CD, but I think that after the first few years when CDs sounded overly-compressed, they've become as good, acoustically, as LPs. My husband does have an iPod and has transferred a lot of our CDs onto it for use in the car. On the whole, I'd rather hear a live performance, but I haven't figured out a way to fit an orchestra or a piano into the back seat, and most of the clarinet players I know wouldn't want to play back there, either.

Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
To hear the audio, click on the "Scorch Plug-In" box above the score.

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 Re: How do you enjoy your music?
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2006-12-28 12:50

I'm pretty much the opposite of skygardener above. I am obsessed with listening to as much music as possible, on top of all the "regular" music that I listen to (and that is a lot!), I also try to find some obscure things that might be good, sometimes even ordering CD I've never heard before, usually from overseas and directly from the labels. I listen probably to a few hours of music every day. I listen to the same music repeatedly, the more interesting it is for me I listen to it more times. Basically I listen to music all the time unless I'm doing something that makes it very distracting to listen to music.

I usually listen to CDs, in the car (though I don't drive that much at all) and always when I'm on the computer (like right now). I have an iRiver which I use mostly to record, not much for listening (only sometimes).

So to answer the original question in short - "How do you enjoy your music?" - mostly CDs, and by listening actively!

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 Re: How do you enjoy your music?
Author: William 
Date:   2006-12-28 14:35

I have a lot of music stored on my hard drive that I listen to while at my computor--like right now, I am listening to Charles Neidich. Also, sometimes I take the time to put on a CD or old LP as still have my old turntable hooked up and have a lot of great music on records. When traveling alone in my car, my radio is always tuned to NPR to hear whatever is being aired. Outside of these venues, I seldom listen to music--no portable music device constantly hooked to my ear nor regular attendance to live muscal performances.

My main enjoyment of music is being envolved and on stage. I would rather play music than listen to others have "all that fun".

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 Re: How do you enjoy your music?
Author: Brenda Siewert 
Date:   2006-12-28 15:55

I listen in my car (I'm in it a lot) and on my computer in my study/studio. I also have a Motorola SLVR 7 that is "ipodish" and holds quite a bit of music. It also has a very nice sound (surprisingly).

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 Re: How do you enjoy your music?
Author: Merlin 
Date:   2006-12-28 16:03

I listen at home on my CD player with speakers; rarely with phones.

On the go, I use a Sony Hi-MD recorder as my playback unit. It's got its flaws, but it's what I have to use.

I don't like listening to MP3's, unless they're encoded at a high bit rate. Too many artifacts that detract from the sound quality.



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 Re: How do you enjoy your music?
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2006-12-28 16:45

If I just want it in the background, it's on my laptop with my speakers, but if I REALLY want to concentrate on it, I have my mp3 player with Grado SR-60 headphones, or back home, I have an infinity surround sound setup.

Alexi

US Army Japan Band

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 Re: How do you enjoy your music?
Author: susieray 
Date:   2006-12-28 17:01

Well, I'm pretty deaf and I wear these really powerful hearing aids in both ears. For me, having music playing in the background is pretty annoying as it just sounds like irritating background noise. If I am going to really listen to a CD I need to sit right in front of the CD player and have nothing else going on. And that doesn't happen too often. Besides, I can't get anything done just sitting in front of the CD player. And so far I have not found any headphones that work for me.

SOOOOOOO the only time I listen to music is in the car. Even then, it has to be when I am alone, with no one else trying to talk to me. I have a habit of leaving the same CD in the player for days at a time and listening to it over and over. I am currently listening to Ben Redwine's Baby Won't You Please Come Home but it's about time to switch to something else as I have heard Louisiana Lullaby and Georgia on my Mind enough times now. LOL. I'll probably change to something more classical like Jon Manasse playing Weber or Tony Pay's Mozart.

Sue

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 Re: How do you enjoy your music?
Author: Escsrc 
Date:   2006-12-28 18:01

I enjoy my music pretty much in every way possible; at home I have an LP/CD/tape combo deck (I have different recordings from all over...) and in the car I have CDs/tapes as well. Last year I got an iAudio (one of the smaller ones) to use as a pocket recording device and to hold my "current favorite" CDs and digitized albums for upcoming performances so I can listen to them inbetween classes at uni.

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 Re: How do you enjoy your music?
Author: EuGeneSee 
Date:   2006-12-28 18:39

In my car, I usually listen to a local station that used to play primarily big band stuff . . . now they are moving towards 1960's - 1990's popular songs, so I'm looking for another station. NPR and classical stations are tough to get and enjoy in these hills as they cut in & out while driving. I do get them OK at home with rooftop FM antenna.

At home I have 78 & LP turntables with rack mounted amp, FM tuner, cassette deck, CD deck, and various processing units. At home I listen to classical, big band, opera, and some ethnic (bazoukis, Don Cossacks, calypso, hispanic, and leider - sometimes even Bluegrass).

Eu

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 Re: How do you enjoy your music?
Author: Sean.Perrin 
Date:   2006-12-28 19:38

> I don't like listening to MP3's, unless they're encoded at a high bit rate. Too many artifacts that detract from the sound quality.

I know! That's the main reason I was so excited when the new 80GB ipod came out. I have all of my 400+ CDs encoded at at LEAST 320 kB/s or higher. That way I can store all the music on the ipod (it adds up to around 55 gigabytes).

These new Etymotic headphones that I have really take advantage of the high bitrate and make the music sound incredible. Absolutely incredible... I guess that's what you get when you pay 300 bucks for headphones!

Founder and host of the Clarineat Podcast: http://www.clarineat.com

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 Re: How do you enjoy your music?
Author: David Spiegelthal 2017
Date:   2006-12-28 20:19

Firmly entrenched as I am in the 1970s-80s, I listen mostly to LPs which I have transcribed onto open-reel tapes (for home listening) or to cassettes (for the car).

ANALOG RULES!

To digital recordings I say "bah, humbug!"

The Grinch Who Stole Music
Who-ville

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 Re: How do you enjoy your music?
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2006-12-28 20:40

I guess I'm one of those noobs who can't tell the difference between a 128K and a 320K mp3, or at least doesn't care. When sitting in a rumbling train or tram it doesn't really matter and pretty much boils down to the mp3 giving the beat while half the music plays in your brain. (The brain's pretty good in interpolating missing pieces, be it acoustically or visually)

--
Ben

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 Re: How do you enjoy your music?
Author: Clarinetgirl06 
Date:   2006-12-28 22:48

I listen to my music mainly in my car. I have a 35 minute drive (can be up to 55 minutes depending on back-ups) to and from college 5 days a week, sometimes more if I have a concert or rehearsal. So, I can listen to a whole CD everyday if I really want to.



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 Re: How do you enjoy your music?
Author: Sean.Perrin 
Date:   2006-12-29 08:39

> Firmly entrenched as I am in the 1970s-80s, I listen mostly to LPs which I have transcribed onto open-reel tapes (for home listening) or to cassettes (for the car).

I assure you lossless audio sounds FAR better than LPs on cassettes.

Founder and host of the Clarineat Podcast: http://www.clarineat.com

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 Re: How do you enjoy your music?
Author: Lelia Loban 2017
Date:   2006-12-29 12:15

The problem I found with cassette or reel-to-real tape is that it breaks or deteriorates and becomes useless. LPs scratch worse than CDs because of the needle. So far, digital and CD transfers seem by far the most reliable over time. I've made CD-R copies of my most treasured LPs. (Never had a cassette or reel-to-reel tape that hadn't already been issued on LP, so I don't transfer those.) My home CDs and dupes onto iPod aren't as good as professional CDs, but they're good enough for the car and my small office, and they do save wear and tear on LPs I may not be able to replace.

Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
To hear the audio, click on the "Scorch Plug-In" box above the score.

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 Re: How do you enjoy your music?
Author: David Spiegelthal 2017
Date:   2006-12-29 19:00

Actually, Lelia, if open-reel tapes are stored in a fairly well-controlled environment (room temperature and normal humidity) they will easily last 20-30 years if the original tape was of good quality (though there were a few formulations of tape, one of the Ampex tape numbers in particular, which were found to delaminate or disintegrate with time). I have many perfectly good recordings I made back when I was in my teens and twenties. I try to dub my LPs onto open reel as soon as possible, before the LPs have the opportunity to get scratched. And as for the longevity of digital media, I recently read a magazine article which described the long-term deterioration of CD media --- it was not good news! As for failure modes, as you know, once a CD gets scratched or develops errors it is essentially unplayable and uncorrectable -- into the trash it goes! The old analog formats tend to fail in more benign ways, in which at least some of the recorded information can be salvaged.

Whatever....................

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 Re: How do you enjoy your music?
Author: ChrisArcand 
Date:   2006-12-29 22:10

I'm surprised at some of the posts here saying that they don't listen to music as much! Though I guess I'm a nut about it...

I completely agree with the annoyance of recordings of less than 320 kbs, but I also don't mind less quality as well. If the music in the recording is excellent and the recording is less than desirable quality, that's okay, but I'll always try and encode things with the highest possible quality.

How I listen...I keep a 30 GB iPod Video with all ID3 tags completely maintained - every composer is listed by last name, first name, with years of birth and death (if applicable). Sounds a little over the top but let me tell you I have no trouble looking for anything within seconds. Also, since I have so much music I can't even listen to it all, if I happen to pull out a piece I've never heard before, there's a decent chance it's on my iPod, under the correct composer! It's kind of like keeping your own private library on hand at all times.

I listen to my iPod with headphones on the go, I have a loading dock that also serves as my alarm clock at the house, I have my PC (which the iPod connects to) with a pretty decent stereo hooked up, I have a 1/8" to RCA hookup in my car (which the iPod connects to), I have an iPod transmitter for long drives in cars other than my own.

But also know that I have my own collection of CDs on my desk, in which the usual Marcellus, Wright, etc are included.

All in all, I listen to a lot. Obviously. Happy New Year!

Chris Arcand



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