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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2006-12-22 07:13
Hi
Yesterday I saw a concert of a clarinet player who posts on this forum - Anthony Pay. It was right here a few mintues from my house. He played the Mozart clarinet quintet.
Just wanted to post that I thought he played very good. Especially what I liked was that every note was very clear and active in their rhythm. There was also logic overall in how he played it.
I also noticed a short but very cool moment in the viola part (where it is "stuck" on the same short folky phrase for a long time) which I never noticed before.
Also was interesting to hear it played on a very old clarinet (I think from 1850?). Sounded very different from a regular modern clarinet. Much quieter, and the sound was sort of like a modern clarinet if you turned down the highs and lows with a mixer (or something similar).
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2006-12-22 07:23
Get his recordings of Weber!
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Pathik
Date: 2006-12-22 07:41
The Weber concertos are available on a double CD with the wonderful Crusell concertos on the other CD. Antony Pay is fabulous in all concertos; it's always a pleasure to listen to him.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2006-12-22 08:01
I heard his recording (with the OAE) of the rondo from Weber's Concerto No.1 on the radio earlier which got my brain in gear (and the 3-part version of the Coventry Carol was on afterwards), if it was [insert name]'s recording I'd have probably fallen asleep again.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: bawa
Date: 2006-12-22 11:16
Yes, I have his Crusell CD and he is really good (as is the Age of Enlightment Orchestra).
My D attended a weekend of Masterclasses with one of the premier clarinet Professor in Spain and at the end of the course he was to give them a talk on the history of clarinets. They were all prepared for photos etc. but were very pleasantly surprised that he had actually brought a whole range of his instrument collection (old, new and experiments) and they got to see and hear and sometimes play the instruments.
All the students (9 teenage clarinet players) loved that talk.
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2006-12-22 15:44
Clarinibass, Tony would have been playing on his Basset clarinet for the Quintet. It is a reproduction from an instrument around about the 1800s. Tony please correct me if i'm wrong.
Peter Cigleris
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2006-12-22 16:38
Peter - from what I understood, the clarinet he played is from around 1850, with a new low C extension built for it. If the clarinet is actually a new one based on a 1800s clarinet then I couldn't understand it from what he said (maybe language berrier).
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Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date: 2006-12-22 19:30
clarnibass wrote:
>> ...from what I understood, the clarinet he played is from around 1850, with a new low C extension built for it.>>
Yes, in fact it's an original clarinet by Doelling of Potsdam that Alan Hacker had extended to low C by Ted Planas in the late 60s or early 70s. (Alan passed it on to Lesley Schatzberger who passed it on to me.)
As a matter of fact there's a photo of it in Brymer's book.
Tony (going to Haifa tomorrow for the final concert)
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Author: Phurster
Date: 2006-12-23 01:39
I'm a huge fan of Tony. If you can try to hear the recording he did of Spohr No 1+2. This was done on modern instruments. The playing is just perfect.
Chris.
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Author: bawa
Date: 2006-12-23 08:46
Yes, the Spohr is superb.
Is the Mozart concert on this basset clarinet available in a recording? Or any plans for it? That would be great!
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2006-12-25 10:38
>Is the Mozart concert on this basset clarinet available in a recording?>
Yes, indeed, and it's a superb recording: L'Oiseau-Lyre 414 339-2
Mozart clarinet concerto in A, K622, with Antony Pay on basset clarinet
Mozart oboe concerto in C, K314, with Michel Piguet on oboe
Christopher Hogwood conducts the Academy of Ancient Music
These were recorded in London by Decca in 1984 and the CD I own was released in 1986.
This CD comes with a good booklet, with photos of instruments and musicians and liner notes on the clarinet concerto by the late Nicholas Shackleton and on the oboe concerto by Michel Piguet. The liner notes also give the names of the orchestra musicians with identification of their instruments.
On December 7, I enjoyed a terrific, mostly-Mozart concert by Antony Pay and the soloists of the Age of Enlightenment in the Coolidge Auditorium of the Library of Congress, Washington, D. C.. My comments about that concert are too long for this space (and include the disclaimer that I'm not an entirely objective critic), but they're in the Klarinet e-list archives under the thread header, "Mozart and Stadler in the Library of Congress."
Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
To hear the audio, click on the "Scorch Plug-In" box above the score.
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Author: Bob Phillips
Date: 2006-12-26 06:39
Did Tony play at A = 430 Hz?
How did the strings tune with his ancient instrument?
Bob Phillips
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2006-12-27 11:50
The liner notes for the instrumentation in the Mozart clarinet concerto on the recording I mentioned above indicate a pitch of A=430 Hz. Since I have relative pitch, not absolute pitch, I can't identify the pitch standard used at the Library of Congress concert. Tony?
Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
To hear the audio, click on the "Scorch Plug-In" box above the score.
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Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date: 2006-12-27 12:12
Lelia Loban wrote:
>>The liner notes for the instrumentation in the Mozart clarinet concerto on the recording I mentioned above indicate a pitch of A=430 Hz. Since I have relative pitch, not absolute pitch, I can't identify the pitch standard used at the Library of Congress concert. Tony?>>
Yes, the Library of Congress concert was also at A=430 Hz; but Bob's question was I think about the Israel one, and THAT basset clarinet is pitched at A=440 Hz -- so it goes easily with modern instruments. In fact, the last time I played the Mozart concerto on a modern clarinet was around 15 years ago.
Tony
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2006-12-27 15:10
When you do play modern clarinets, do you prefer Boehms or Oehlers?
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date: 2006-12-27 15:36
Chris P wrote:
>> When you do play modern clarinets, do you prefer Boehms or Oehlers?>>
The following post, following my previous visit to Israel two years ago, is some sort of an answer. Wolfgang Meyer offered on that occasion to sell me a pair of spare instruments he has -- though in the event that didn't transpire (he didn't reply to emails:-(
http://test.woodwind.org/Databases/Klarinet/2004/12/000268.txt
Tony
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