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Author: tedm
Date: 2006-12-25 03:39
ever wonder what a clarinet sounds like through a guitar pedal? the pedal is a danelectro "chicken salad" tremelo pedal, inserted at the mixer's send / returns (about 60% wet tone):
http://www.tedm.com/mp3s/clar1224.mp3
2 Artley 17S & 1 Buffet B12 Crampon
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Author: Ralph Katz
Date: 2006-12-25 16:14
First let me say that I am glad that other people are playing with this! Keep it up!
I think that your recording is typical of what happens to the clarinet when put through most guitar effects processors - a hollow sound, devoid of expression. Adding leslie effect, wah-wah, or tremolo can help get beyond a sound that is sure different but not too exciting.
These devices are designed for the guitar, which has a BIG attach, and than a VERY rapid volume decay. The box boosts the level quickly and a lot, to allow a much more effective sustain than the instrument itself gives. The clarinet has a mild attack and no decay, so an unfortunate side-effect of these boxes is that they iron out all of your control over volume and expression.
There is also the problem that the clarinet's waveform is pretty straight-forward, and monophonic. The guitar has a more involved waveform, and can play 6 notes at a time. So a simple effects box really has more to start out with.
I have a <no longer made> in-mpc pickup and a Line6 Pod XT Live . Most of the pre-programmed patches were similar to your sample. But then I downloaded everything else on their website. A lot of them were similar, but some were really good, and a couple give the clarinet a real dramatic heavy-metal sound. That's what I wanted.
Haven't found a rock band that needs a clarinet yet...
Keep experimenting!
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2006-12-25 18:47
> Haven't found a rock band that needs a clarinet yet...
Look for an accordionist first... ;-)
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Ben
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Author: tedm
Date: 2006-12-25 19:18
the problem with the Bb clarinet is it's not simple for rock and roll. A C clarinet might be better for rock. We jam with harps, keyboards, drums, and guitars in all kinds of tuning, and everone has to accomodate for the Bb clarinet.
Someone should make an adapter tube to convert the Bb to C tuning.
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2006-12-25 19:51
I have a C clarinet. Where's your band?
The adapter tube probably won't fly unless you're into experimental music - basically everything (besides the bore maybe) has to be shrunk to scale. A C clarinet is roughly 8 cm shorter than its Bb sister. (or brother? What gender does a clarinet have?)
(fixed typos)
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Ben
Post Edited (2006-12-26 08:49)
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Author: Bubalooy
Date: 2006-12-26 05:23
Klarinette do not have sex but here in Germany they definitely have gender, feminine.
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Author: Terry Stibal
Date: 2006-12-26 13:34
Yeah, like we're going to accept the judgement of a language that assigns the neuter gender to young girls...
leader of Houston's Sounds Of The South Dance Orchestra
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Author: tedm
Date: 2006-12-26 16:04
lol, well to get back on topic, any clarinet whose first 8 notes you learn to play, which would be white notes on an 440 tuned piano would be fine for rock.
Many instruments like guitars can tune within a wide range with these ultra cheap new strobotuners, but old school instruments like pianos that don't transpose and stuff do not adjust as easily.
make sense?
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2006-12-26 16:09
tedm wrote:
> the problem with the Bb clarinet is it's not simple for rock
> and roll.
Seems the Bb & Eb brass sections haven't had any trouble at all adapting to rock & roll! If we want to go back to "classic" r&r, there's Chicago and BS & T who's claim to fame is more the brass section than the guitarists.
Motown R&B has has horn sections since I don't know when ...
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Author: tedm
Date: 2006-12-26 16:13
You're right, what I meant was "easy and simple" for "beginning rock"
there is no doubt that a good brass or woodwind player and/or a good guitarist/keyboardist could do any notes in any keys fine.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2006-12-26 16:27
tedm wrote:
> You're right, what I meant was "easy and simple" for "beginning
> rock"
I don't know ... playing along with Santana guitar solos by ear (Black Magic Woman, Oye Como Va, etc.) isn't all that hard ... rather than thinking about transposing, it's easier to just play it.
Knowing your scales is the best way to get started, and it gives you a reason to start learning them.
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