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Author: Arnoldstang
Date: 2006-12-17 15:00
Any idea what make of instrument Julian used in this Youtube recording? Thanks
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Author: kev182
Date: 2006-12-17 16:22
yea he was playing on a large bore Eaton clarinet. Now he plays on the Leblanc Legacy with a Backun O Mouthpiece and a Traditional BG Ligature and French cut steur (sp?) reeds.
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2006-12-17 17:09
I love how pros (yes, I'm going to put him up in there. He's performed at the palace more than anyone else I can think of) can change equipment multiple times in their career and yet still sound great. I guess it just goes to show that it's the player, not the equipment (is it the shoes?!)
Alexi
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2006-12-17 17:51
Alexi wrote:
> is it the shoes?!
No, it's the cork grease. Believe me.
--
Ben
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Author: Arnoldstang
Date: 2006-12-18 01:28
It is the player not the equipment. This sounds like 90% black and white thinking. The player is probably 80% and equipment probablly 35% or more. Yes , this allows for some hyperbole. So let's quantify a bit more when we talk about player/equipment. I believe it varies with the player....myself I'm 100% equipment. That way I don't have to work too hard when I play. John
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2006-12-18 13:43
The thing is, sometimes the pros get equipment for very little, sometimes even free, for advertising the instrument. I don't know if that happened with the Backun stuff or not, but one of my clarinet professors is a Buffet artist and he gets his stuff free.
But, I think it's the shoes. Good shoes are a great plus.
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2006-12-18 14:33
So if I wanted to sound like Sabine, I have to wear.......no way!
I think I will stick to the Docksiders and sneakers, and maybe just practice some more.
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2006-12-18 16:10
I will stick to my Tony Lamas all the same.....thanks but no thanks.
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-
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Author: robertgh
Date: 2006-12-18 21:50
Nope, not the shoes. It's the socks—white socks, to be precise. (Anyone who auditioned for All-state Band or Orchestra in New Jersey in the 1960s could tell you the details of that classic 'urban legend'.)
Seriously, JB had the Backunized Legacy at his Baltimore concert in early November and sounded terrific. And David Shifrin was playing Backun equipment at a recital in Harrisburg in late November and also sounding as wonderful as ever. Did the equipment make the difference? It sure didn't hurt. I'd give my right arm to sound like Shifrin, but of course it would make holding the horn pretty problematic . . .
Post Edited (2006-12-19 01:28)
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2006-12-18 23:03
Robertgh, there's a hitch to everything.
And Allan, at least you're wearing good ol' Texas products.
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Author: Old Geezer
Date: 2006-12-20 17:24
I read someplace where Julian is studying with Sabine Meyer twice a week. Let's hope she doesn't convert him to Wurlizer clarinets and the German system.
Karl Leister convinced the principle clarinet of the LA Philharmonic to switch in mid career!
I don't know why any one would do that. The tone of German clarinets is often characterised as "dark". I would say their sound is best described as "dank".
This is merely my informed, authoritatve, never to be confounded pesonal opinion....
Clarinet Redux
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Author: Arnoldstang
Date: 2006-12-20 18:20
To be clear here, what does personal opinion mean? It's your opinion as stated but your "personal" opinion is confusing to me. Do you have a dual personality? respectfully John
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Author: Merlin
Date: 2006-12-20 20:41
It is the player not the equipment. This sounds like 90% black and white thinking. The player is probably 80% and equipment probablly 35% or more. Yes , this allows for some hyperbole. So let's quantify a bit more when we talk about player/equipment. I believe it varies with the player....myself I'm 100% equipment. That way I don't have to work too hard when I play. John
John, you make me laugh out loud so often! Thanks!
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Author: robertgh
Date: 2006-12-20 20:54
Old Geezer–
Dank? That surely must be a personal opinion. It's not the term I would use to describe, for example, the clarinets of the Royal Concertgebouw. They have a lively distinctive sound that adds subtle richness to European repertoire. Gotta love the way they sound in Mahler or Brahms.
Part of the beauty of our instrument is the variety of tone and timbre that is possible across its spectrum and the enormous versatility that creates. Lotsa colors in that palette! And if I'm a young, gifted artist with abundant resources of talent, why wouldn't I study with a studio that could allow me to develop additional breadth.
It's pretty clear from numerous other threads that concepts of sound can be highly personal and opinions on such strongly held. It's one of those topics that makes trolling the archives so endlessly fascinating.
Respecting your right to differ,
Robert
Post Edited (2006-12-20 20:55)
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Author: Iceland clarinet
Date: 2006-12-20 22:09
Oh I miss George Pieterson from the Royal Concertgebouw orchestra he was in my opinion much better than any of the clarinetist that are playing with the orchestra today and he sounded just like many British players.
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Author: msloss
Date: 2006-12-21 02:41
Probably the two most critical pieces of gear Julian uses are talent and hard work. Alexi got it right.
And I'm not sure I see the relevance of receiving gear "for free". First of all, so? And second of all, not free. Are there many industries that don't use professional paid endorsements? Let's survey 4 out of 5 dentists. Tennis anyone? Basketball? Life insurance? iPods? And the time, the reputation, the "brand" of these performing artists in our field is worth quite a bit. I happen to see a "free" clarinet as fairly meager compensation. $2,500 - $5,000 at full retail is pretty paltry if you think about it. How many of you in your chosen vocations, particularly if you are at the peak of your professions, would lay your good names on the line for just a few thousand dollars?
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