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Author: sylvelle
Date: 2006-12-05 21:21
Hi
I feel very akward when I do this scale, especially when I go from C# to d# (above staff)
Is there any trick or it is just practice? Could I just forget about pressing the key on the right hand when I play d#?
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks
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Author: Merlin
Date: 2006-12-05 22:25
You need to learn correct left and right hand pinky fingerings.
The general rule is that you should always alternate when you change notes.
If you need to go B - C# - D#, it's likely that using R - L - R will be the best combination.
Consult any decent fingering chart, and start learning what all of those extra keys are for.
Post Edited (2006-12-05 22:26)
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2006-12-05 22:29
If you have an Acton vent fitted (as on B&H 1010 clarinets and reform Boehms) then you can do the D# as oxx|oxoEb, but for standard clarinets the oxx|xo,oEb fingering is the best one for tuning, even though it's awkward next to the C#.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Burt
Date: 2006-12-05 22:49
I use the standard C#. For D#, I use oxx|ooxEb. Just roll your wrist to go from C# to D#.
The standard D# fingering (Chris described it) gives me trouble in such a passage (my fingers hit each other), especially on Eb clarinet.
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Author: Sean.Perrin
Date: 2006-12-05 22:51
I think he/she means the higher octave, Merlin.
I would do what Chris P has reccomended... first option if it is fast and technical, but if the note is sustained at all I will always use the fingering that is better in tune, even if it is more awkward to use.
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Author: sylvelle
Date: 2006-12-05 22:54
Ok thanks
Yes I was talking about the high notes above staff.
Chris P, your coma is the little one in between the holes? right?
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2006-12-05 23:27
It's possible to use the standard fingering, with the right index finger and the right ring finger on the sliver key. I always do this in slow passages, and force myself to do it in scale exercises. It takes some getting used to, since you also have to get your right little finger on the "resonance" key, but it's neither illegal nor immoral to use this.
In passages too fast to make the change, use your right ring finger instead of the middle finger, since this is better in tune.
In very fast passages, use the middle finger and "think the pitch up." Don't bite, but voice it higher.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2006-12-06 01:05
For really, REALLY fast passages you can play the C# with just the first finger of the left hand, the D# as an over blown chalameau G#, and the E as an overblown chalameau Bb (just register and A key).
This can be played like greased lightening........not for the faint of heart.
..............Paul Aviles
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Author: carl rosman
Date: 2006-12-06 08:42
I learnt using the 'normal' fingerings
C# Rx oxx xxo
D# Rx oxx xo,o G#
and yes, my teacher's advice was: just practise it like that and it will be fine. I don't know if that's ideal but it worked for me; I don't have to think twice about it any more.
I did run into a Carter piece recently which had fast alternations of Db and Eb; I used the normal Db and added the throat A key for the Eb. Needed some humouring but worked nicely.
Sometimes this D#/Eb is useful:
Rx oxx oxo F
Sounds a bit different though.
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Author: Merlin
Date: 2006-12-06 14:06
Sorry, I misread the original post. I thought "above the break" instead of "above the staff".
I see now that you meant C#6 to D#6.
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2006-12-06 14:26
What I did is I learned to use the regular fingering for D# which Chris P mentioned and use that after C# too. Sometimes I use the fingering Burt suggested (I am not explaining why and when because that's probably irelevent).
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