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Author: SHSBand
Date: 2006-12-02 06:03
I purchased this clariniet from a dealer listed on Buffet's website. It was shipped to me.
I doesn't look like wood to me. When I look inside it looks like plastic to me. The protruding areas under the rings are clearly plastic. I am very confused. I've writted to Buffet but haven't heard back.
Does anyone have this clarinet?
I'll dispute my credit card payment if I don't hear back something soon but I cannot seem to convince myself that this instrument is made of wood.
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Author: Tom A
Date: 2006-12-02 11:11
If it is an E11, then it's wood. I believe the E11 has plastic tone hole inserts. As to the rest; more description? Photos?
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Author: BobD
Date: 2006-12-02 14:17
Since I live in Joliet I'd be happy to take a look at it if you want to stop by with your parent. ..
Bob Draznik
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2006-12-02 14:18
E11 logos are painted on adding to the "fake" look. If your suspicious and wish to be satisfied...take it to a clarinetist or a repair tech and ask their opinion.
James
Gnothi Seauton
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Author: pewd
Date: 2006-12-02 15:21
>I believe the E11 has plastic tone hole inserts.
yes. plastic inserts into the wood.
what james said - have someone else look at it.
- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas
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Author: SHSBand
Date: 2006-12-02 15:40
Thank you everyone. I feel a bit better now. I looked at them locally before buying one but didn't examine it the way you do when you get one shipped to you, I guess.
I am going back to a local dealer where I get repairs done and check out their model. If I am still worried when I get home, I'll try to get photos that might illustrate what I mean.
I guess if the newer plastic models didn't look so great these days, I wouldn't be so paranoid ;-)
As an aside, I couldn't figure out how someone knew I was in IL, and then saw that the ISP location is listed. Too funny. I'm really in the western suburbs of Chicago but comcast must not be :-)
So thanks, everyone. I am 44 years old, played the clarinet in a city public h.s. for four years and am taking lessons in preparation for a Mr. Holland's Opus type event at my old school. For 20 years after I finished h.s. the band program deteriorated into nothing. It's just started up again and the feeder schools have no band programs so the kids aren't that advanced. I'm hoping I can catch up with them quickly :-)
Can you believe they were SHARING instruments (including mouthpeices soaked in alchohol!) in between classes for the past two years? I could'n't believe what I saw. We're having a rock concert in the historic audiotrium in March to raise money and the school band and alumni guests will top off the night.
I'm getting repairsis and donating instruments I can round up for them too. It feels so great to help. I hope we can get that band back to where it was and farther :-) I'll probably donate an e11 every year we can keep this going. This fundraising is turning out to be an expensive hobby for me :-)
I'll check in when I get home from the local dealer. Keep your fingers crossed for me :-)
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Author: DressedToKill
Date: 2006-12-02 15:54
There is no way that an instrument with an E11 painted on the upper joint is not wood. Don't worry, you have a wood horn there.
Is it an exceptionally high-quality wood? No. The reason you are freaking out, I'm betting, is due to the fact that Buffet PAINTS the E11s in a thick sludge of grotesque black stain to disguise all of the defects in the wood.
Lift the pinky C#/G# key and look at the tone hole surface underneath...you should be able to see the wood grain. (Or look at the edges of the holes underneath the low E/F/F# keys...you should be able to see it there, too. Hopefully.)
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Author: clarinetist04
Date: 2006-12-02 16:44
I've had an E11 for about 7 years now and it plays better than many if my friends R13s. Why? I really don't know. Lucky, I guess. As time goes on, the stain will wear off and the grain of the wood will shine through. Or, better yet, if you look at the tennons, you may be able to see the wood grains. But rest assured it is definitely wood.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2006-12-02 17:02
An E11 is a wooden, silver plated, version of the B12 and sold in a nicer case.
Nothing more, nothing less...GBK
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Author: SHSBand
Date: 2006-12-02 18:12
I just got back from a local dealer. They had new and "B/model" E11's there and they are exactly like mine. So, I have the real deal. Thank you to everyone.
But... it gets better for me. I'm chatting with the salesman and telling him about my band fundraiser and looking for good deals on used and new intermediate instruments, yada, yada, yada. I mention that this is a Chicago Public School and he says he completely understand because he was also a product of Chicago Public Schools and he was in a band-- that wasn't really a band. His school had no advanced band program when he was there. Guess what? We attended the SAME high school about 15 years apart!!
When I was there the bands were great and the Band Director was very well respected-- the director of the Chicago Fire Department Band, etc. Louis Lason.
So, I have convinced this salesman, a saxaphonist, to play in our benefit concert with the SHS concert band that night and help me find some good instruments to buy for these kids. It was as if fate brought me there. :-)
Anyone else out there from Chicago Public High Schools ????
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2006-12-03 02:53
My Fiance is from Yorkville, on the other side of...well you probably know where it is.
She's blessed to be a cellist, though. (Too bad for her?)
James
Gnothi Seauton
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