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 String Theory and Musical Instruments
Author: Alseg 
Date:   2006-11-29 05:27

Ok, so not exactly Steven Hawking stuff, but applicable to clarinet design:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/28/science/28acou.html?ex=1165381200&en=86e0fe495a3e14d2&ei=5070&emc=eta1


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 Re: String[s] Theory and Musical Instruments
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2006-11-29 13:38

Interesting, revolutionary ? Didn't Benade investigate some lower-density cl body materials [thin? plastic tubes] ? I don't expcect much woodwind design change in my lifetime ! Don

Thanx, Mark, Don

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 Re: String Theory and Musical Instruments
Author: David Peacham 
Date:   2006-11-29 14:00

So they make a "better" violin.

What will they use it for?

Authenticity demands that we use the instrument the composer expected.

So the "better" violin can only be played in music composed after it was invented.

(Yes, I'm being provocative. Please feel free to be provoked.)

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If there are so many people on this board unwilling or unable to have a civil and balanced discussion about important issues, then I shan't bother to post here any more.

To the great relief of many of you, no doubt.


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 Re: String Theory and Musical Instruments
Author: David Spiegelthal 2017
Date:   2006-11-29 14:12

Read Dr. Arthur Benade's book "Fundamentals of Musical Instrument Acoustics" (I think that's the title, or something close), especially the chapter towards the end where he discusses a new family of 'acoustically correct' and properly-scaled string instruments, developed in the mid-1960s. Apparently they worked very well. Where are they now?

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 Re: String Theory and Musical Instruments
Author: jmcgann 
Date:   2006-11-29 15:40

Quote:

So they make a "better" violin.

What will they use it for?

Authenticity demands that we use the instrument the composer expected.

So the "better" violin can only be played in music composed after it was invented.

(Yes, I'm being provocative. Please feel free to be provoked.)


There is music being written today and will be tomorrow as well.

There are also styles of music other than that written by 'Dead European White Guys' (now who is being provocative?) :)

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 Re: String Theory and Musical Instruments
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2006-11-29 15:51

Some things work well but are just too weird looking. http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.americanviolasociety.org/JAVS%2520Online/Summer2004/Summer2004/Pellegrinaviews.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.americanviolasociety.org/JAVS%2520Online/Summer2004/Summer2004/pellagrina.htm&h=386&w=500&sz=64&hl=en&start=4&tbnid=3iB_O-FZuj35fM:&tbnh=100&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dpellegrina%2Bviola%26svnum%3D100%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26newwindow%3D1%26safe%3Doff

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 Re: String Theory and Musical Instruments
Author: DressedToKill 
Date:   2006-11-29 16:12

The Pellegrina is probably the best viola I have ever played. (aside: The viola was my first instrument, predating the clarinet by several years, and I still try to get at least half an hour or so of practice in each day). They are very bizarre looking, yes, but the proper viola sound requires a body length much greater than the human arm can handle, and David Rivinus has found a way to make that possible while at the same time making it comfortable for the player.

I played Don Erlich's Pell several years ago, and had I the requisite $12,000 I would have purchased one for myself immediately. I play a 17.5" viola, and while I love the sound, it is tremendously uncomfortable to play after an hour or so (which makes playing in an orchestra more of an ordeal than it should be...even for a violist. ;) )

Someone's gotta be the innovator, right? I mean, surely Theobald Boehm got some strange looks in his day when he started putting all these gewgaws and flibbertygibbits on all those instruments...

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 Re: String Theory and Musical Instruments
Author: EuGeneSee 
Date:   2006-11-29 16:45

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Here we have the clarinet world slugging it out over wood vs plastic and now some yahoo from Maine is starting a graphite revolution in the music world . . . will Buffet bite?

Oh, well . . . there's enough carbon in wood anyhoo that one might wonder if anything is really changing. Eu

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