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Author: haberc
Date: 2006-11-20 16:45
Hey, do you use the Winslow Ligature. Where can you get them?
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2006-11-20 17:07
The Winslow has an inverted design (screw on top) with a pierced plate with 6 holes for spring-loaded posts with rubber rings that press on the reed with a metal end. You can use any number of posts from 2 to 6. You tighten the top screw down until the rubber rings are compressed.
It's an interesting idea, and some good players (including Larry Combs) used one for a while. However, it's very heavy, it tears up reeds and it scratches the mouthpiece.
Winslow appears to have stopped making it, or at least be heavily back-ordered, though he may still set up a table at conferences. It's about the most expensive ligature made.
I used one for a while but stopped and went back to a very light metal one for practice (and string for concerts).
Ken Shaw
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Author: bbarner
Date: 2006-11-20 19:52
Madison Enterprises
PO Box 8434
Madison WI 53708
608-241-1124
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2006-11-21 13:22
FWIW - Winslow's US Patent # is 4,428,271 [only one I could find], where the references cited therein are a "laundry list" of earlier lig inventions. If later lig pats are desired, search on USPTO for the [a] name AND ligature, looking up the most recent [there is quite a bit of "false drop"] and viewing it's/their citations. Luck, Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: William
Date: 2006-11-21 15:01
I live in the same town as John Winslow and play tested his earliest--and often, unsuccessful--ligature designs during the early 80's. And I still own and use original detachable band versions of the Winslow ligature on all of my metal and hard rubber saxophone mouthpiecies. I do have older and newer ligs for my soprano clarinet mpcs that I used for a few years, but now prefer the Vandy ligs with the parallel rail insert. Why?? For my ears, the Winslow ligs tend to brighten or "thin out" the upper register--G5 and above--by allowing too many overtones to sound. The lower register--G4 and down to E3--does benefit from the abundance of overtone and sounds quite rich and that is why they are so great for sax and bass clarinet. But I don't like the brightness they produce up high on the small clarinets. John made a couple of different versions of his soprano lig and also offered two post designs (round or pin shaped) which seemed to affect their response. There are also soft (red), medium (grey) or hard (black) rubber bumpers that you can use. My own preference was the "classic" model with the pin shaped tips and black bumpers. But still, the sound in the upper register is too bright, even for my ears.
FWI concerning old ligs versus newer (the black banded ones). I once asked John if I should upgrade to the newer sax ligs (which you now see advertised on eBay) and his reply, "no....maybe your old ligs are best." (Longer, heavier tables might be the difference) Consequently, I never used a black banded Winslow lig on a sax mouthpiece. But I do love my originals.
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