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Author: tedm
Date: 2006-11-11 17:53
One of our Artleys came with these plastic rods with furry stuff on the outside in the upper and lower pieces. What are they for? We use those triangular cloth things to clean after each session.
I'd like to sterilize these before putting back to use, if they are even needed, any ideas? spray Lyson on them??
2 Artley 17S & 1 Buffet B12 Crampon
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Author: susieray
Date: 2006-11-11 18:00
I would throw them away. You don't need them. They make too much lint which can get into the tone holes. Anyway, if they have been used by someone else they are probably not anything you'd want to hang onto.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2006-11-11 18:29
Toss them out.
It's like the equivalent of leaving a wet rag in the bore of the clarinet...GBK
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2006-11-11 18:52
And definitely not for use with wooden clarinets.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: EuGeneSee
Date: 2006-11-11 19:08
It is most curious to note that those things are called "pad savers". I would think that they actually trap and hold the moisture in the clarinet and prevent proper air circulation. That would not only be damaging to wood clarinets, but it would actually be harmful to the pads (and even the insides of plastic clarinets) by promoting the growth of fungus and mildew. Eu
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Author: tedm
Date: 2006-11-11 19:42
ok, tossing them out, thanks all!
2 Artley 17S & 1 Buffet B12 Crampon
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Author: BobD
Date: 2006-11-11 20:15
Yet....I'm under the impression that they are in common use among sax players.......
Bob Draznik
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Author: EuGeneSee
Date: 2006-11-11 22:07
Saxophones! What else can mildew faster than leather - - wow! All those leather sax pads. Eu
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Author: RodRubber
Date: 2006-11-12 03:16
It is often difficult to convince my sax students who have "studied" previously, to toss those things.
I find them repulsive.
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2006-11-12 12:24
Gee, I've been using "padsaver" (a.k.a. "Shove-It") swabs for decades on my saxes, and I'm still waiting for the first signs of mildew or pad deterioration...
Here's the trick: Use the swab to dry out the bore immediately after playing; then SET THE SWAB ASIDE for a little while to allow the swab itself to dry out; then (and only then) should you put the swab back inside the instrument. If you've just played a gig and have to leave immediately after playing, it's OK to put the swab in the horn right after playing and go home, as long as you go through the drying routine when you get home and/or don't do this too often.
I'm only speaking about saxes here; I don't use these swabs on any size of clarinet so the above discussion may be irrelevant.
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Author: EuGeneSee
Date: 2006-11-12 12:54
OK, David, I can see how your method of using the padsaver keeps the insert from exacerbating moisture problems within the instrument. Not only are you giving the insert time to dry out, but simultaneously you are allowing time for the residual moisture in the insrument and on the pads time to dry out. Once residual moisture has evaporated from both horn and padsaver, you are prepared to insert the latter into the former and all is well.
Now, since everything is dry, what does the padsaver do in there? . . . keep out dust and creepy crawleys? Eu
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Author: BobD
Date: 2006-11-12 15:43
....the small end protects the end of the horn...and where else would you store it
Bob Draznik
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2006-11-12 17:12
> Now, since everything is dry, what does the padsaver do in there?
I'd suspect it serves as a moisture buffer, keeping water from condensing, evaporating water when the environment is too dry.
Like a portable socks drawer, somehow. ![[wink]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie3.gif) (I keep delicate gear such as cameras etc in the clothes closet, for these reasons)
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Ben
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Author: SVClarinet09
Date: 2006-11-13 23:01
amazingly enough i almost bought one of these at the store but then thought about all the damage it can do. i saw a director's daughter today in class(her dad doesnt teach at my school) with one inside her R13. She told me the padsavers "soaked up water in the bore and prevented the wood from damage." I told her "the padsavers may soak up the water but it's being left in the instrument so it defeats the purpose, no?" and she said to me "nu uh whatever, sit down." How can I re-explain to her how these padsavers don't work? Her clarinet is her mother's(who passed away). It's one of the late 70's model and from my understanding those were the better R13s produced.
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2006-11-13 23:15
What material are these pad savers made of?
Wool can have a beneficial buffer effect, especially in winter with its rather extreme wet/dry cycles. Should be specially treated to avoid lints, however.
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Ben
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