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Author: tedm
Date: 2006-11-11 04:40
We got our used, but exc. condition Buffet B12 Crampon today and both myself, and my daughter tried it, she tried with her mouthpiece (not sure of brand, just whatever came with one of the Artley's), and I used the Yamaha 4C, she uses 2 1/2 reeds, and I use 2 (I know, go figure )
Anyways, after a couple of minutes it didn't feel any different to her or sound different. Same with me but I noticed it felt maybe an ounce or two lighter, and I noticed the thumb rest was adjustable, where it is fixed on the Artleys.
When we try high F (left fingers and thumb covers hole and lever, and r hand middle finger closed) we both struggle to make that a note, not a squeak on both the artley and buffet.
So we probably should have stayed with Artley's, or whatever, but we don't see a big difference with the Buffet, maybe when my daughter gets better she will.
2 Artley 17S & 1 Buffet B12 Crampon
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Author: BobD
Date: 2006-11-11 10:21
There is a small adjustment screw on top of the A key (the one you play with your left index finger) try tightening it a little at a time. If that doesn't do the job then try rotating the top and bottom sections in opposite directions to adjust the alignment. Yes, lighter weight is about the only advantage of the B12 vs the venerable competitors....in my experience.
Bob Draznik
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Author: David Peacham
Date: 2006-11-11 10:43
tedm wrote: "When we try high F (left fingers and thumb covers hole and lever, and r hand middle finger closed) we both struggle to make that a note, not a squeak on both the artley and buffet."
BobD suggested adjusting the A key.
I suggest if you have the same problem on all three clarinets, the problem is more likely to be with you than with the instrument. However, his suggestion to check that the upper and lower joints are correctly aligned is a good one - they need to be spot on, not a millimetre out.
Try playing the F:
- as a slur from the E just below.
- as a slur from the G just above - if you can play the G.
- as a slur from Bb a twelfth below.
Keep relaxed, keep the air flowing. Keep it loud but not very loud. If you tense up "because the next note is really difficult" then the note is much more likely to fail.
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If there are so many people on this board unwilling or unable to have a civil and balanced discussion about important issues, then I shan't bother to post here any more.
To the great relief of many of you, no doubt.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2006-11-11 20:23
It's entirely possible that both used clarinets need adjustment of the A screw in which case it wouldn't make any diff. who is playing them. Guess I missed the third horn.
Bob Draznik
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Author: EuGeneSee
Date: 2006-11-12 00:27
When I first started back on clarinet last spring (after almost 44 years of not playing) I bought a used student horn that gave me fits on the r.h. clarion F/F# and the related chalemeau B/Bb. As it turmed out, a little testing with a couple pieces of cellophane revealed 2 things:
1) The ring height was too low & the little pad above the lower joint rings wasn't closing all the way when only 1 finger was down with normal pressure. The addition of the next finger to play E (or lower A) provided just enough additional pressure on the pad to close its tone hole.
2) The second problem was that the bridge had apparently been bent a little at some time in assembly with the result that the bridged key in the upper joint closed before the lower pad making it feel like the lower first ring had been pressed down enough to have closed the lower pad although it had not.
Anyhoo, a little adjustment of the lower joint ring key plus some bridge key regulation and the problem was solved. Eu
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