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Author: Ralph Katz
Date: 2006-11-07 03:04
I didn't have any gigs at all last summer. At an old friend's suggestion, I joined a local community orchestra. During a wind/brass sectional, I was amazed at how well we played together.
Since we have already programmed pieces for just strings (Barber: Adagio), and just brass (Copeland: Fanfare for the Common Man), it follows that we could program pieces for everyone except the strings.
So the question is: can anyone suggest pieces suitable for an orchestra minus the strings?
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2006-11-07 03:10
Kodaly - Viennese Musical Clock.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: John J. Moses
Date: 2006-11-07 03:16
I very much like the Petite Symphonie by GOUNOD:
Petite Symphonie in Bb for Wind Instruments (1885)
Charles Gounod (1818-1893)
BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCH
Gounod was one of the most distinguished French musicians and composers of the 19th century. He was born in Paris, on June 17, 1818. His father was a well known and respected painter and architect. Charles lost his father during childhood, and his music training was fostered by his mother, a gifted professional pianist. Gounod was sent, at an early age, to the Lycée Saint-Louis, where he achieved great success as a composer and pianist. Gounod was influenced by Rossini's opera "Otello" at age thirteen. That same year, he witnessed a performance of Mozart's "Don Juan". Mozart remained Gounod's model composer throughout his career. Gounod is best known for his romantic operas, Faust (1859), Mireille (1864) and Romeo and Juliet (1867). He also wrote many oratorios and cantatas.
MOVEMENTS: Four
Adagio-Allegretto 5' 30"
Andante Cantabile 5' 30"
Scherzo: Allegro moderato 4' 09"
Finale. Allegretto 4' 48"
PERFORMANCE TIME: 19' 57"
INSTRUMENTATION: 9 Instruments
1 Flute, 2 Oboes, 2 Bb Soprano Clarinets, 2 Bassoons, 2 Horns
JJM
Légère Artist
Clark W. Fobes Artist
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Author: GBK
Date: 2006-11-07 03:19
One of my favorites;
Richard Strauss - Serenade for Winds Op.7
Of course there is the obvious:
Stravinsky - Symphonies of Wind Instruments
...GBK
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2006-11-07 03:22
Bummer for the trumpets:
Mozart Gran Partita
Dvorak Wind Serenade (this piece rocks)
James Tobin
Gnothi Seauton
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Author: Ralph Katz
Date: 2006-11-07 10:26
I am familiar with all of these pieces and they are indeed really wonderful.
But I was really looking for something that utilitizes most of the orchestra's wind and brass sections.
I am not familiar with the Stravinski but it sounds like I should be. According to Boosey's web site, the 1920 version is scored:
"3(III=picc).afl.2.corA.2.altocl.3(III=dbn)-4.3.3.1"
Not sure how to read this exactly, but I take it to mean the piece requires Alto Flute, Alto Clarinet, and Contrabassoon - is this correct? Is the 1947 version scored differently?
Thanks,
Ralph
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Author: Ralph Katz
Date: 2006-11-07 10:41
I am not familiar with the Kodaly "Viennese Musical Clock".
Web search turned up that it is an allegretto section from the "Hary Janos Suite".
What is the instrumentation?
How long is it?
Thanks!
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Author: GBK
Date: 2006-11-07 12:12
Ralph Katz wrote:
> I am not familiar with the Stravinski but it sounds like
> I should be. According to Boosey's web site, the
> 1920 version is scored:
>"3(III=picc).afl.2.corA.2.altocl.3(III=dbn)-4.3.3.1"
> Not sure how to read this exactly, but I take it
> to mean the piece requires Alto Flute, Alto Clarinet,
> and Contrabassoon - is this correct?
Yes - and the 3 trumpets are: 2 in C and 1 in A
> Is the 1947 version scored differently?
The scoring of the revised 1947 version of Symphonies of Wind instruments has been changed to:
3 flutes
2 oboes
English horn
3 Bb clarinets
2 bassoons
contrabassoon (reading bassoon 3)
4 horns
3 trumpets in Bb
3 trombones
tuba
The change in instrumentation necessitated a certain amount of rescoring. Some new measures were added.
The music was rebarred and as was custom with Stravinsky's later writing, wherever possible larger irregular units have been broken down into twos and threes...GBK
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Author: Tony Beck
Date: 2006-11-07 12:53
Check Felix Mendelsohn's "Overture fur HarmonieMusik", Opus 24 (1824). Of all Mendelsohn's overtures, this one is about the least performed. It deserves to be heard more often.
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Author: LesterV
Date: 2006-11-07 13:00
Louis Spohr's Nocturne for Wind Instruments fits your request.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2006-11-07 15:01
Hindemith, Symphony for Band
Schoenberg, Variations for Band (in his early, tonal style)
The Gounod Petite Symphonie requires a single cello.
Strauss wrote half a dozen wind works, but as I recall they use no brasses other than horns. Even for Strauss, the other brass-h*les are just Too Damn Loud.
Ken Shaw
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Author: BelgianClarinet
Date: 2006-11-07 15:36
Ken,
no cello in the Gounod, at least not in the version we're playing ;-)
2nd Hobo is rather boring though
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Author: elmo lewis
Date: 2006-11-08 01:10
Vaughn Williams - Scherzo alla Marcia. It's a movement from one of his symphonies.
Stravinsky - Concerto for Piano and Winds
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2006-11-08 14:55
Oops. My bad. It's the Dvorak Serenade that calls for cello.
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Author: Ralph Katz
Date: 2006-11-09 23:13
Lots of good ideas here.
I already have the music for the Gran Partita and the Gounoud.
Any idea who publishes the Spohr?
Thanks!
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Author: LesterV
Date: 2006-11-10 11:51
Ralph,
I knew of the Spohr only because I had just attended a performance of it by the Manassas Symphony Orchestra (Manassas, VA). They have a web site - www.manassassymphony.org that may be of help in tracking down their source.
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2006-11-11 12:42
Ralph, Bareniter have got a new edition of the Mendelsohn. It is is fact the Nocturne Op. 24. My group has the parts from a Dutch editon but it's not great.
Peter Cigleris
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Author: LarryBocaner ★2017
Date: 2006-11-11 12:50
You might check out the Beethoven "Military Marches" published by Musica Rara. Scoring is: piccolo, 2 flutes/oboes, 2 (or more) clarinets, 2 bassoons, contra bassoon, 2 horns, 2 trumpets and percussion (snare drum, bass drum, cymbals, triangle). We played them as a "prelude concert" before a National Symphony performance of Mahler's 1st a few years ago -- audience loved it. You can also use wind parts for Beethoven's "Turkish March" stand alone without strings -- same instrumentation.
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Author: Ralph Katz
Date: 2006-11-11 16:31
SheetMusicPlus lists the Mendlessohn as a "Notturno in form of an Overture".
Instrumentation is listed 1 fl, 2 ob, 2 cl, 2 hn, 2 bn, cbn, tpt.
Thanks everyone for your good ideas!
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