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Author: Charak
Date: 2006-10-16 04:59
..I just purchased an R13 from a dealer here in Thailand and my open G doesn't tune with my piano. G clarinet = F piano, F cla = Eb piano and so on and so forth....All the joints are pushed to the limit and the piano I use is electric piano so it is supposed to be pitch perfect from factory...Otherwise, the tone is lovely....By the way, are we supposed to disassemple the clarinet everytime after playing? Or swabbing is fine?..thanks
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Author: pewd
Date: 2006-10-16 05:04
that is correct, as it is supposed to be
a clarinet is pitched in Bb
so you play a C and its the same as a Bb on a piano
disassemble ,swab, and clean out the tenon sockets, then put it in the case so it wont get damaged when you are not using it
- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas
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Author: 2E
Date: 2006-10-16 06:09
I know they say "no question is a stupid question" but lol! noob :p
Piano is in C.
Clarinet is in Bb.
Therefore every note played on clarinet is a tone below that of piano.
It might also be good to note at this time that Clarinet in Bb is a semitone above Clarinet in A hahaha. And yes swab and put away everytime your not playing your new R13.
2E
Post Edited (2006-10-16 06:14)
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Author: Charak
Date: 2006-10-16 07:31
Hahah What a dummy I am..and thanks for the comment. I still have so many questions of this sort but will save it so that you won't have to LoL, hahha. Will take some getting used to for me. When I see the note I play the note. From now on when I want to play with classical guitar for example, when the score is calling for a G then I have to play the clarinet using A fingering..is this correct? I promise that this is my last question of sort.
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Author: 2E
Date: 2006-10-16 09:11
Yep, sightread transposition up a tone. If the guitar/flute/oboe/piano/voice part is in F, your playing in G everynote up one. a true musicians skill - good luck.
2E
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2006-10-16 14:53
May I recommend that you get Jack Brymer's PB book [$10-12] where in Chap 3 he has the sub-title "Clarinets are Transposing Instruments" which should answer all [and more] questions you may have. After a bit of experience, all of us have accepted this, and some of us do enjoy the challenge of figuring-out trans --- for insts in Eb and F. Luck, Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: Charak
Date: 2006-10-17 09:04
I thought this is the Clarinet era when we play as we want and everybody else transpose down a tone for us : (
But thank you very much for the recommendation for the book. I will surely get and read it immediately.
I hope this would be last of my "dumb & dumber" thread.
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Author: Ralph G
Date: 2006-10-17 13:36
Charak,
There is such a thing as a C clarinet -- where a C is the same as a C on a piano and so forth -- and at one time over a hundred years ago it was the standard clarinet. But its sound quality was considered too shrill to use in most ensembles. The solution was to lengthen the instrument to where everything was pitched down one whole step, which darkened the tone quality. The fingerings and notations were kept the same -- therefore, C became Bb on the piano and so forth. Soon, the Bb clarinet became standard.
And that's why we now play mostly Bb clarinets today.
BTW, when you play in an orchestra, it's not unusual to have clarinet parts still written for the clarinet in C. I've played Beethoven, Schubert and Rossini parts written for C clarinet. You have to either play them with a C clarinet (which are still made today), or you have to transpose them on the spot with your Bb clarinet.
And ignore the "dumb question" comments -- it's not a dumb question, especially for a beginner. In fact, figuring out for yourself that there's a difference shows you're pretty smart.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2006-10-17 13:38
Ralph G wrote:
> and at one time over a
> hundred years ago it was the standard clarinet.
I don't believe that to be true; the C clarinet is called for in some operas and some classical pieces, but music extant from the 18th through the 21st century generally calls for Bb and A instruments.
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Author: Ralph G
Date: 2006-10-17 13:48
Mark,
Don't let the truth stand in the way of a good story, man!
My apologies for any error... though this is the story I've heard repeated through the years and may be in the spirit of the truth if not 100% factual.
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Artistic talent is a gift from God and whoever discovers it in himself has a certain obligation: to know that he cannot waste this talent, but must develop it.
- Pope John Paul II
Post Edited (2006-10-17 14:36)
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