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 Re: What Is An Overhaul?
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2006-09-08 18:53

I think Fobes (or whoever drew those sketches) is just not very good at drawing. His words are clear: "it can be seen that the intent is to shorten the tube of the tone hole rather than to enlarge the diameter of the undercut area at the bore. As you cut, try to maintain an abrupt edge at the beginning of the "cone" (Example. 6). If this edge becomes round or blunt the tone is attenuated less abruptly, resulting in a loss of center and immediacy of response."

This clearly explains he recommends leaving a sharp angle and not rounding it to a bell shape. Examples 5 and 6 are just pretty bad drawings. I understand that Fobes recommends to cut/file a straight line from the bottom of the undercut area (not enlarging it), to a point a little above the top of the undercut area, changing the angle without rounding it.

Vytas, in your examples that you quote from the article in the post a few above, they have nothing to do with the undercut area. They are talking about the upper round area of the tone hole which he agrees should be smooth.

"I do not want to argue on this issue anymore. It has nothing to do with this thread "What is an overhaul?" anyway. It became something like pointing finger at each other game."

But it turned into an interesting subject. A lot of threads drift to different subjects. Pretty normal when people speak imo. But, no one is arguing about anything. People just bring differnet points of view, trying to "find the truth".



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