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 Tennon joint condensation
Author: chazman 
Date:   2006-09-01 00:00

To my utter surprise I have noticed a collection of condensation in all of my tennon joints. Not a large amount but enough that it has my attention. I swab regulary between selections, yet there it can be seen between each (joint) section. All of the sections appear to fit snugly with no apparent gaps seen in the bore. I recently oiled the bore, but to no avail. I am concerned be cause it is occurring in one older and most cherished LeBlancs. Does anyone any an Edu. guess to what might be causing the problem and perhaps how to resolve the issue.
Thank you
Chuck

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 Re: Tennon joint condensation
Author: Alseg 
Date:   2006-09-01 00:48

Normal


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 Re: Tennon joint condensation
Author: Gordon (NZ) 
Date:   2006-09-01 01:41

1. As the weather gets colder, there is a lot more condensation.
2. There is usually a gap between the end of a tenon and the bottom of the receiver, where condensate can collect.

Hence, normal.

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 Re: Tennon joint condensation
Author: David Spiegelthal 2017
Date:   2006-09-01 02:39

Normal.

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 Re: Tennon joint condensation
Author: pewd 
Date:   2006-09-01 06:07

yup perfectly normal.
wipe them out with a cotton cloth every time you put the horn away.
i use a cotton handkerchief.

- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas

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 Re: Tennon joint condensation
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2006-09-01 06:31

Use a separate cloth or piece of kitchen towel for drying out sockets, not the same pullthrough you use for the bore as you'll get cork grease on it - and in the bore.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Tenon joint condensation
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2006-09-01 13:29

Hi Chuck - Our experts, technicians, teachers and others [like me] saying "just Normal" and how to dry up, are your answers. The only thing I can add is to consider the influence of atmospheric humidity levels in "playing venues" . If the air is "dry", perhaps less than 40% REL. Hum. maybe due to Air Cond., evaporation-drying up of water is of course faster and more complete, than if "humid" ?above 60%?. Exhaled breath [at 95+ F ?] must be approaching 100%, just breathe on a cool mirror for evidence, and will condense-out H20 on any cooler surface, which may collect in the derndest places. Its simple Phy Chem, Jest doin' hut comes nachurle, as Annie GYG says. Don

Thanx, Mark, Don

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 Re: Tennon joint condensation
Author: Bruno 
Date:   2006-09-01 18:36

As everybody said - normal; water droplets collect there and there isn't anything you can do about it.
There is one thing I do however to add a little protection to the end-grain of the joints - end grain is especially absorbent. I dab a tiny amount of cork grease on the end of the tenons and rub it around the circle with a finger covering the end grain every time I assemble the horn. Even the very thin bottom tenon of the lower joint on Buffets that inserts into the bell.
Thirty five years no problem!(He says, crossing his fingers.)

b/



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 Re: Tennon joint condensation
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2006-09-01 20:35

On unlined sockets and on tenons without metal tips I seal the end grain with wax to stop water getting in.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Tennon joint condensation
Author: chazman 
Date:   2006-09-01 23:51

Thank you to all for your professional postings, being able to post such a simple question and receive such valuable replies, affirms the true sprit of those whom participate here.
Thank you to all
Chuck

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