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Author: TomD
Date: 2006-08-14 14:52
Any recommendations for a folding clarinet stand?
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Author: GBK
Date: 2006-08-14 15:00
Get a Blayman stand.
It does not fold, but rather unscrews into 2, 3 or 4 pieces, depending on the number of pegs you use.
It is the best (and last) stand you will ever purchase...GBK
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Author: Matt Locker
Date: 2006-08-14 19:27
Tom:
The K&M 3-legged stand works well. It won't protect your instrument against everything but it is sturdy & portable.
MOO,
Matt
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Author: Katrina
Date: 2006-08-14 20:01
The Pak-a-Stands are good if you are not clumsy. One of the legs on one of mine had started to fail, but I used it anyway and knocked my instrument over about 2 hours before a gig. Bent the RH ring keys out enough so that the pad they depress was not sealing. Worst gig ever, cause my 2 (yes that's right...2) backup horns also had issues...
I'm with GBK on this...the Blayman stands are the absolute best and most sturdy!!!
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2006-08-14 22:52
May I advise against the type that has legs made from thin metal folded into a shape whose cross-section is U-shaped.
If somebody steps on a leg, it will be bent, and no longer fold. Such bent legs are difficult to straighten because the metal gets stretched at the ends of the "U".
Solid metal legs are good. Even tubular ones would likely be a lot stonger than the U-section.
EDIT: VERY SORRY. I WAS THINKING OF MUSIC STANDS.
(This post could be deleted.)
Post Edited (2006-08-15 09:27)
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Author: Mike Blinn
Date: 2006-08-15 02:05
I recommend the K & M 4-legged folding stand for soprano clarinets. It wont fit in the bell of your horn, but it fits real nice in my Leblanc case's side pocket. It's well made and quite stable for a folding stand. Far superior to the Pak-a-Stand.
Mike Blinn
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Author: msloss
Date: 2006-08-15 02:47
I've never seen a folding clarinet before. Is that anything like a pocket trumpet?
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Author: Matt Locker
Date: 2006-08-15 11:54
Mike:
I would recommend the 3-legger over the 4-legger. Why? 3 legs are more stable than 4 legs on everything except a perfectly flat stage.
MOO,
Matt
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Author: Mike Blinn
Date: 2006-08-15 15:52
Matt:
Interesting observation, but everything else being equal (the length of the legs for one) and a flat surface, isn't having more legs more stable? I think that should I shove or knock a clarinet on a stand in any direction, the chances of it toppling over are less if it is towards a leg. If the force is towards the space between legs, there is a greater chance it will fall over. The more legs, the less space in between. The ideal base would be have an infinite number of legs ( a circle). But since this is a folding stand, the number of legs is limited to three or four.
Mike Blinn
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2006-08-15 16:03
> Interesting observation, but everything else being equal
> (the length of the legs for one) and a flat surface, isn't having
> more legs more stable?
Sure. That's why rolling office chairs have five legs.
--
Ben
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Author: Matt Locker
Date: 2006-08-15 16:46
Mike:
Yes, all other things being equal, more legs are better. In this case though they aren't.
The moment arm of a 3 leg stand (the distance from the axis of rotation formed by the contact points of 2 adjacent feet to the center of the stand) is only .5 x (stand leg length). A 4 leg stand has a moment arm of .7 x (stand leg length). By itself this would seem to make the 4 leg stand better. Note though that the 3 leg stand will always make contact at all 3 points no matter the flatness, the 4 leg stand will make contact at only 2 or 3 points if used on a non-flat surface. A 4 leg stand that gets bumped will have a rotation about an axis that happens to have a moment arm of "0". Why? Because the 2 opposite feet act as the axis of rotation rather than the points between adjacent feet.
How does this translate into real life? My stand does not wobble no matter what the condition of the floor. It's a sturdy stand & I'm quite content with its performance. My instrument has never come close to tipping and that keeps me happy.
MOO,
Matt
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Author: BobD
Date: 2006-08-15 19:49
Good luck, Matt. But a folding stand with longer legs is easier for a clumsy associate to stumble over too. You can be the most careful person but it's the other person you have to worry about. A folding stand between your feet is handy for long rests and to free your hands up for whatever...agreed. But, during breaks the safest place is in it's case. ....no moment arm there.
Bob Draznik
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Author: Danny Boy
Date: 2006-08-15 20:37
The K and M 4 legged stand do fit in the bell if you're using BAM cases. I think they're great bits of kit.
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Author: Mike Blinn
Date: 2006-08-15 22:26
Matt,
I agree with you that on uneven ground, the three-legged stand will touch on all three feet, while the four-legged probably won't. But if the ground is uneven, should you use a stand anyway?
Mike Blinn
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Author: Matt Locker
Date: 2006-08-16 11:42
Mike & BobD:
You need to use some intelligence when you use a stand. If you put your clarinet on the stand and think "I'm not sure I trust it there." then you'd better not use the stand at that point. I use my stand when I'm sitting with my instrument. The instrument goes with me as soon as I leave the chair.
Mike:
I played a concert with our community band at a berry farm. The ground was uneven & rough. My stand worked fine. All I needed was to place it so it was at the most vertical position. It wasn't vertical but it was close enough for me. It was stable though!
I'd say purchase the one you want. You'll figure it out soon enough if there are any issues with whichever one you purchase. If you don't like it, buy a different one. It's not like buying a car. This is a $20-30 purchase for a $2K clarinet.
YMMV, MOO
Matt
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