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Author: Tyler
Date: 2006-07-30 21:50
People should start getting on this!
http://www.musicked.com/musicked/pages/misc/instruments/woodwinds/Clarinet-Chat-Rooms.htm
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Author: David Peacham
Date: 2006-07-30 22:20
Alex - maybe Mark would agree to re-open the chat room, if you would volunteer to moderate it.
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If there are so many people on this board unwilling or unable to have a civil and balanced discussion about important issues, then I shan't bother to post here any more.
To the great relief of many of you, no doubt.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2006-07-30 22:30
David Peacham wrote:
> Alex - maybe Mark would agree to re-open the chat room, if you
> would volunteer to moderate it.
No way. As I discovered, chat rooms are a dangerous place.
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Author: ned
Date: 2006-07-30 22:46
''As I discovered, chat rooms are a dangerous place.''
What is the main danger?
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2006-07-30 22:53
ned wrote:
> What is the main danger?
If you read the newspapers or listen to radio and television news you'll get an education on the dangers.
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2006-07-30 22:54
Yeah... chat rooms are a different beast to moderate.
A message board, you can leave for hours or days at a time if need be, and still completely clean up any messes that occur. Message turnover is a lot quicker in a chat room, though, and unless you have people willing to watch everything that happens, lots of junk can slip through the cracks, and exchanges happen much more quickly, with any unfortunate consequences (from name calling to .........) often getting totally out of hand before the moderators get back from the restroom.
Personally, I think it's a risk worth taking for the benefits it yields, but I can somewhat understand a site like this not wanting to deal with the added worries.
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2006-07-30 22:57
EEBaum wrote:
> Personally, I think it's a risk worth taking for the benefits
> it yields
Not if you can't afford the lawsuits and legal bills. Few can. It only takes one ugly lawsuit to ruin your lifetime.
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2006-07-30 23:12
Yeah, lawsuits suck. They ruin lots of things that could be fun. I think people treat them like a miniature winning of the lottery too often.
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: Markael
Date: 2006-07-30 23:37
Well, speaking for myself only: I don’t get chat. If you want to “chat,” why don’t you pick up the phone and call somebody?
Carrying on a conversation has the advantage of immediacy. Writing, on the other hand, allows one to take time to self-edit and to communicate more clearly and succinctly.
On-line chat has the disadvantages of both.
Well, diff’rent strokes for different folks. If the clarinet chat room meets a need for some people, that’s great. But I think it is asking a lot to expect Mark C. to add a chat room to the ten bulletin boards we already have, on top of the other parts of Woodwind.org. I don’t see how he keeps up with all this as it is.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2006-07-31 01:52
I concur with Markael and would add that Chat Rooms lower the standard of conversation to a level of "profound banality." Never mind the name calling and the fetishes - chat is stupid.
................Paul Aviles
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Author: DressedToKill
Date: 2006-07-31 02:34
Having participated in a chat this evening with some fellow clarinetists, I must respectfully disagree. We had a very lovely and civil, and I daresay enlightening conversation about repertoire, equipment issues, pedagogy, and clarinetistry in general. There was none of the snark, banality, name-calling, or other heinous and horrible things that have been mentioned...
I realize that there ARE chat rooms on the internet where this happens, but the specific one mentioned above does not seem to be one of them.
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2006-07-31 04:27
Chat is nice because you have immediate feedback on a group discussion, and the messages are meant for the people in the chat room at the time, rather than posted for eternal posterity and commentary. For better or worse, people on a chat room are more likely to speak their mind casually. Additionally, these are random people with common interests, but not people I'd ever be likely to pick up the phone and call.
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: ned
Date: 2006-07-31 05:39
''unless you have people willing to watch everything that happens, lots of junk can slip through the cracks, and exchanges happen much more quickly, with any unfortunate consequences (from name calling to .........) often getting totally out of hand before the moderators get back from the restroom.''
OK thanks.
ned
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Author: diz
Date: 2006-08-01 03:56
If you need to spend your life in a chat room ... then I suggest you open the front door of your house/condo/whatever and talk the dog for a walk ... enjoy the fresh air, enjoy the smell of flowers, acuaint yourself with your local homeless person ...
Without music, the world would be grey, very grey.
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Author: DressedToKill
Date: 2006-08-01 23:02
"If you need to spend your life in a chat room ... then I suggest you open the front door of your house/condo/whatever and talk the dog for a walk ... enjoy the fresh air, enjoy the smell of flowers, acuaint yourself with your local homeless person ..."
Sage advice...although it appears to not pertain to frequent posting on the woodwind.org clarinet board.
Curious, that.
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Author: CJB
Date: 2006-08-02 12:23
I do have some fond memories of the chat room on this site, the Sunday evening (UK time) sessions for the most part were quite interesting and civilised. However with the ammount of offensive junk that appeared there particularly out of hours I totally understand Mark's decision to remove it.
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